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Old 10-19-2007 | 09:16 AM
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I was seeing if anyone could answer a few questions about US Air. I know that the East side is quite senior and will see a lot of retirements in the near future. But, what about the West side? Is this a pretty Junior group? How many pilots? Is there many retirements coming up on the west side? I am just looking into what kind of place the new US Air will be for a new hire? In other words, its future. Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-19-2007 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by erjpilot
I was seeing if anyone could answer a few questions about US Air. I know that the East side is quite senior and will see a lot of retirements in the near future. But, what about the West side? Is this a pretty Junior group? How many pilots? Is there many retirements coming up on the west side? I am just looking into what kind of place the new US Air will be for a new hire? In other words, its future. Thanks in advance!
West started in the early 1980's, so there are nowhere near as many impending retirements as on the east side. But the pilot groups will be merged eventually, so anyone on property will eventually see the movement from the retiring easties.
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Old 10-19-2007 | 04:19 PM
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The information from the union at the end of 2006 was that there would be 169 retirements from the east and 46 retirements from the west in 2007. In 2008 the numbers are 143 from the east and 43 from the west. After that the numbers will increase a little on the east side and remain fairly stable on the west. Who knows what will happen when the retirement age changes.
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Old 10-21-2007 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks guys. Has anyone out there been contacted for interviews yet? Class dates?
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Old 10-21-2007 | 05:14 PM
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I don't think they've actually started interviews yet or have they? If not, it will be soon.
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Old 10-23-2007 | 06:11 AM
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This is definatly an airline you want to AVOID!!!
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Old 10-23-2007 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IronWalt
This is definatly an airline you want to AVOID!!!
Hey IronWalt,
I think we all would appreciate further information that led you to the 'AVOID' conclusion. Some of us are relatively new here and are trying to learn as much as possible in order to make sound decisions. Thanks
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Old 10-23-2007 | 07:18 AM
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ERJPilot, Let me throw some #'s out for you to ponder. Out of the 2 pilot groups the East has about 3000 pilots , the West has 1800. The average age of the East group is now 54 to 55 years old. The right seaters are actually older by about a year. If age 60 stays in place then around 80% of the East pilot group wil be gone in the next 5 years. That's gonna make for some big time movement. Heck I moved up over 300#'s this year alone. Also the company wants a contract in a big way, and when they want it that bad then a good contract is a very good possibility. So I would say it might not be such a bad place to try to get on with. I hope this helps.
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Old 10-23-2007 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by erjpilot
I was seeing if anyone could answer a few questions about US Air. In other words, its future.

I thought so much of its future, I left with 7 years of seniority under my belt. A relative "rookie" compared to the FOs on the east ...

As a matter of fact, there is at least one UPS FO who left USAir as a 20 year Captain ...

Doesn't mean we both made the right move though ...

Think of it as a step up to a large regional that flies Boeings, Airbus, and some international ... and you won't be dissappointed.

Another problem with USAir, as one poster indicated moving up 300 numbers. This occurred with NO HIRING ... USAir / AWA have been shrinking, and will continue to do so until hiring outpaces retirements and attrition.

Later, CC
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Old 10-23-2007 | 11:32 AM
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what is going on with the USAPA vote?? My buddies on the east say there is a good chance it will get voted in...


cant imagine this would be very good for usair getting that single contract anytime soon.
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