ewrbasedpilot

See my last post, this is JUST what I was talking about. Rather than sit on this forum and blast me, how about volunteering to do some UNION work? I'll be doing that on my next two blocks of days off. And you? I know, you're probably too busy.............. You can attack me all you want, but at least I'm TRYING to make things better for our pilot group, rather than sitting around and complaining all the time about how bad things are........

757Driver

Wrong again Karl, I'm currently involved with the Union and have been since the IACP days. Nice try though.

ToiletDuck

I'd still like to work at CAL. Just might be some time. I don't really see them moving out of Houston so yay for me. I am hoping that this current contract has taught the other pilots a lesson and unified the group a little more. With the company making money hand over fist I'd love for them to get a piece of the deal.

Does the CAL pilot group have a union/community forum? My regional airline does and it works great at bringing the pilot group together. Makes it easy to get help with grievances, swapping trips, contacting people for info etc. We have study guides and many other help files on there. I'm not sure how far you can get without being an actual pilot for us but take a look. www.republicpilots.org It's a great layout.

On another note guys does going to a job fair really help much? I don't meet all the requirements as of yet. No atp and couple hundred short on the multi-turbine but I've got the rest down. Just wondering if I should actually bother or not.

ewrbasedpilot

Great, nice to see how you beat up on fellow UNION brothers. You sure had me fooled. BTW, what do you do for the union?

Ottopilot

You CAL pilots fighting each other online doesn't help anyone. If I were looking for work, I wouldn't choose CAL after reading these posts. Relax.

jdt30

ToiletDuck,
If you don't know anyone at Cal then I would definately try the job fair. A guy I know was offered an interview days after going to the fair, and offered a job shortly after the interview.

Eric Stratton

ewrbasedpilot, you keep telling people that CAL is so great and if they don't like it they should leave even after 20 years but what is it that makes CAL one of the top company's to work for in the country?

mundo1

Reading this thread brings me thoughts of how much management must be loving the fragmentation of our pilot group. It appears to me that this is not just a symptom, but a chronic illness.

With contract time at our doorstep we should be channeling our energy in educating, yes, educating our membership instead of attacking anyone who has a different view or opinion. As captains, we have an excellent platform to pass-on information to our new hires, and for that matter, to our fellow aviators.

757Driver, I understand your feelings toward management. In many respects I feel the same way. But attacking others who don’t feel as strongly as you do on some issues will not help your cause. Most pilots at CAL understand that improvements in pay and quality of life are imperative in the next contract, but beating them on the head will not align them with you. Why not take a more rational approach in order to use all the resources available to us and negociate the absolute best contract possible.

Here is the unavoidable reality about CAL’s pilot group, there are military and civilian pilots, older and younger pilots, scabs, union neutral and union militant pilots. Each group brings a somewhat different culture to the mix, and management loves it. Instead of having each group push in the direction of their own agenda, lets all push for a common goal - a great contract.

This time around we have an added responsibility, for we are the first legacy in contract negotiations after the last economic downturn. So lets set the bar. I enjoy being a CAL pilot but know that there is a lot of room for improvement.

Remember, management’s job (in every industry) is to produce the most at the lowest cost. So instead of attacking each other lets for once glue the fragments and move forward as one.

P

jdt30

Mundo,
That was an excellent post.
JDT

ewrbasedpilot

Exactly my point Otto. You hit the nail on the head. The sad thing is, is that telling other people you work for a crappy company only makes things worse since the quality pilots will go elsewhere, thereby leaving the 'leftovers' for us to hire. Guess who gets to fly with the leftovers????? US!!!! Then we'll complain about the "quality" of pilots we hire. So management will slow down the hiring leaving us in a staffing shortage. All the bickering amongst pilots does nothing to help our cause at all. CAL IS a great company to work for. It certainly is nice to be hiring like gangbusters, getting new planes AND making money. The last part is what will help us get what's due to us. Thanks for the good post...