United cancelations mount.....
12-27-2007, 08:40 PM
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United cancelations mount.....
United canceled 168 flights nationwide Thursday mostly because of the weather in Denver, its second-largest hub, to help prevent planes from being stranded there. That's about 5 percent of the airline's daily schedule.
So UA pilots, how is things going on the inside?
12-28-2007, 04:27 AM
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you do realize they did that to keep a large chunk of their fleet from getting stuck in a blizzard in DEN, right?
rather cancel flights in and out of there and reroute everyone else than have 40 airplanes buried in the snow, making no money at all.
rather cancel flights in and out of there and reroute everyone else than have 40 airplanes buried in the snow, making no money at all.
12-28-2007, 04:46 AM
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Deicing a plane for a whole 45 seconds of use is soooooo expensive and costs the airlines dearly. It's nothing other than money ****ed away for overly exhorbitant expensive antifreeze. CAL used over 250,000 gals a few weeks ago. At approximately $7 a gallon, it wipes out a LOT of profit and the planes are still delayed hours. I'd rather have my planes parked for an extra day at an outstation, than incur all the costs associated with bad winter WX ops. Unfortunately, the airlines can't afford to strand all their passengers, so they have to bear the brunt of the delays and costs, thereby letting the passengers continue the constant b*tchfest and blaming the airlines for being run poorly............
12-28-2007, 06:14 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, airlines are not required to reimburse a pax for ANYTHING if the delays/canx are due to weather...that makes it ALOT cheaper than dumping hot glycol and screwing up your scheduling system.
12-28-2007, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
At approximately $7 a gallon, it wipes out a LOT of profit...
12-28-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hjs1971
Correct me if I am wrong, airlines are not required to reimburse a pax for ANYTHING if the delays/canx are due to weather...that makes it ALOT cheaper than dumping hot glycol and screwing up your scheduling system.
12-28-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gredenko
This is interesting. Are both Type I and Type IV $7 a gallon? Are deicing fluid costs pretty much the same all around or do they vary like fuel?
12-28-2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Does anyone have any proof of $7/gal? That sounds way too high.
Dow Chemical Type 1 deice goes for 618.75$ /55 gallon drum
Military contract purchase Type 1 deice for 353.97$/55 gallon drum
Type 4 anti-ice for 385.00$/55 gallon drum
For 'inquiring minds that want to know'
12-28-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Deicing a plane for a whole 45 seconds of use is soooooo expensive and costs the airlines dearly. It's nothing other than money ****ed away for overly exhorbitant expensive antifreeze. (
That's assuming the bean-counters understand these kind of things, of which I have doubt.
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