The new hires drank it all this week. I am just a regular line pilot. No technical publications for me. I hope I did not come across as being abrasive. That was not my intention. I am a little jaded Brek. Jaded becasue the same people who were telling me that NK was great and had a future, and how lucky I am to be apart of it are the same people who are telling me to "Run, not walk" to another carrier. This change of attitude became prevalent shortly after the downsizing of DTW took effect. It gets old after a while. Especially when you have fellow pilots fighting eachother over political propaganda. I for one will support my group, and my union, but i will not be pushed into being negative in nature or choosing sides. You have a way to voice your opinion. Its called a vote. Best. Tjets.

I can't think of a airline that doesn't have problems. Everybody is searching for the dream job that I don't think exists. I was just hired by Spirit and I am looking forward to coming aboard. Positive attitudes make life a lot less stressful so I plan on maintaining mine. Take care.
CP

No problem...... Introduce yourself to me sometime and I'll buy you a beer; Its better than that Enviromental Green stuff they've been serving;)

Last time I checked, smiles were still free at NK.....probably not for long:D

Funny you mentioned DTW. After comuting on NWA, it is interesting what they have to say about one of their former workers.

Good luck careerpilot..... It is a pretty fun and good place to work. Like you said, everyplace has problems. Hopefully NK can iron out theirs so we don't have to go looking for another "dream job".

Enjoy SJU!

I thought it was "Soylent Green".

The plan was that mgmt was going to SJU. Climbto350.com is looking for pilots who live in SJU. This way nobody will get sent there who does not want to go.

New base opens April 1st. Even if management is going down to PR to hire from the island, it will take awhile to get them sent north, trained, finish IOE and then sent back down to SJU.

I cant help but think that a few crews will be displaced down to SJU for a few months. But will all of the hiring going on until June I cant see anyone staying there very long unless they wanted to.

Just seems like you have a lot of "inside" info. NK is great, does have a future (how long?). The "change" of attitude is NOT because of the DTW "downsizing". It has been around for awhile, and now since they are going more "south", and changing bases lately, it seems like they don't know what they are doing for the future. Every year, it's NEXT year. The political propaganda has ALWAYS been around. It might change in March. Just make sure when you "voice" your opinion, you are FULLY AWARE before you vote (when you can).
BTW, LOVE my life (new baby), occupation, and the people I work with.
Trying to stay positive during the "transitional period" for almost 8 years!
Also,
It is FREEZING in MSP tonight!

Best guess, what would competitive times be for a regional FO coming to Spirit? Are they hiring close to the published mins or is it a case by case deal depending on refs, etc? Thanks

If you have an inside contact at the company I would say apply when you are within 20% of the posted minimums. There is always flexibility when you have an internal recommendation.

Even without a rec, Spirit is looking for a lot of qualified people right now. If you are willing to live in (or are from) San Juan then your chances go through the roof.

Competitive applicants would have 121 experience and approx 3000 hours. Spirit is highly interested in people who have knowledge of "cerebral" aircraft like the A320 series. The machine thinks. Spirit wants people who will manage that machine and relate to it on a level of intelligence rather than wit.

That being said, get familiar with complex FMS systems and glass cockpit aircraft if you want to "stand apart" from the others. From your position as an ATR FO it looks like you wont be flying glass anytime soon; so think of creative ways to acquire that experience to show management that 1) you CAN do it and 2) you did it for Spirit.

Hope that helps.

Does the Collins 4200 count? If so, I'm in!

Im just curious for those regional FO's Are you planning on retiring there or is it a steeping stone for something bigger. or just a free ATP with a type?


Hey Short Bus Drive

good luck in MSP unless you just added flights to there and if you did my commute from FLL just got easier. doubt it though

Retire! Looking for a job sucks. grass is always greener on the other side. Atleast this grass is palm tree green.

Exactly my thought...I live in FLL and although I'm probably year away from those times it doesnt hurt to start thinking about it.

I am at least a year away from those hourly minimums. However, I think I am going to attempt to get invited to the SJU job fair. I'll call someone if need be. If they are hiring 300 hour recent ERAU grads, I don't see any reason I couldn't figure smething out :)

Filled out the online application about a week ago. Got the standard reply. How long generally until the call?

I think it took about 2 weeks until I got the expanded version of the app. Filled it out and haven't heard a peep since...BTW that was in the middle of Dec.

GNH

A word of advice for those who recieved a job offer from Spirit. Do not quit your job until your background check is fully completed. Even though I completely disclosed an issue that happen to me over 10 years ago Spirit found it necessary to rescind their job offer. The issue was completely disclosed in the interview and I have no criminal convictions or training failures. So be careful and do not quit your job until background is fully completed. Good luck.

I'm sorry to hear that. That's a pretty crappy deal. Good luck.

I thought so. After I was informed I called and emailed the director of recruiting several times with no response.

That happened to a guy that I interviewed with as well. He disclosed something that had happened over 20 years ago when he was a minor.:rolleyes:

He was unable to get his old job back; go figure.

Lucky for him he found another 744 capt job and is probably better off then had he gone to NK.

What is up with the App it told me I had to select a "written exam" like FEX FEB FEJ...it wouldn't let me submit till I selected one, even though I don't have any of them and it wasn'ta posted requirement. Anyone have this problem? I just selected on and will explain if they ever call

I feel your pain. That lovely outfit Eagle did that to me back in '98.:mad:
It happens!!!!

Same here....also wanted email addresses for bosses from 8 years ago!

No it just doesn't just happen. I don't know what careerpilot had in his background. I do know he is entitled to explain himself to Spirit. Not returning phone calls is like a 15 year girl. Sounds pretty pathetic to me of the hiring dept.

Uhmmm, sorry , it does. It's right there in the application, where you sign your name and say they can hire/fire you with/without 'cause.
It's happened to quite a few folks. YOU'RE HIRED!!! Oh wait, no you're not!
WHY? We can't tell you.
Been there, got the T-shirt. It STINKS!!!
Just gave my 2 weeks today, and UAL still hasn't "fininshed" the background checks. Actually, they don't even do it, it's outsourced. Hopefully it doesn't happen here.
Sweating it out.:D

Spirit guys and gals, I'm starting initial training soon and just wondering what the dress code is as it's my first 121 job. I think the folks I saw were trainees and in business casual but want to be sure. Also anything that I might need at training which I might not have already thought of? Thanks...

Congrat's on the new job. I am trying to get on there as well.

How long did the hiring process take for you? Did you have an internal rec?

business casual works.....

If I remember correctly, Friday you can wear jeans: I'm sure Brian and/or Chris will chime in soon and let you know?;)

Don't forget you swimwear!!! Ditching training. Hopefully you'll have some GIRL FA's to look at when doing it.:cool:
BTW, it's SNOWING in DEN!!!
I will change my avatar (sp?) this week when I know what I get.
Hopefully can still use the BUS name?

Congrats on the new job Short Bus. Best of luck.

We are havin fun in Indoc so far Taylor - Good Luck to you too bud.

I did not know you went too. Good Luck. On the bus?

I completed the online application about a month ago and have not heard back, how long is it taking guys to the call? Is it possible to update the resume?

Will spirit be at the AIRINC in ATL this May?

Lots of questions, I know but I would really like to work there.

Thanks in advance

A320 LAX......yep you moved up one :)

cosmos,

It is very hard to get called from the online App only. I've not yet met anyone that got in that way. The best way is to have someone walk it in. If unable, then meeting with the recruiters face-to-face is the only other way that I've heard of.

I'm not sure if they will be at Airinc in May, but I heard they will not be at the one in March. BTW, they've hired a bunch from those recruiting events.

Thanks.
A320 ORD, but going to swap for JFK.
Excellent "Welcome and Wings" dinner last night!

I thought that may be the case . Hopfully the recruiters will be in ATL and I can try to get in front of them.
Thanks for the heads up Dundem.

Ha... nice. Keep in touch and let me know how it is on the other side. Same goes to you Shrek!