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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 345135)

No raise and late flights?hmmmmmmmmmm :eek:great plan

....Noted.

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Originally Posted by HPilot (Post 344512)

Very little since I'm now in the health care industry. Why wait years for six figures when you can have it now along with job security(something you'll never see at Alaska). The only jobs worth having in aviation now are hauling boxes. How pathetic is that?

Pretty pathetic if you ask me <BG>. But hey, I wanted to be a cargo dog. Box management at least smart enough to ask for a fare that earns a profit which is what the pax management won't do and blaming pilots. How pathetic is that? <ng>

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Originally Posted by HPilot (Post 344512)

The only jobs worth having in aviation now are hauling boxes. How pathetic is that?

Wanna trade checks? Sorry that we strike you as "pathetic".

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Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 345184)

Wanna trade checks? Sorry that we strike you as "pathetic".

I think he was referring to the state of the passenger airlines being pathetic, not freight haulers.

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Originally Posted by Slipstream (Post 345461)

I think he was referring to the state of the passenger airlines being pathetic, not freight haulers.

Ya get what you pay for,ppl do not give a damn about service as evidence that they will not pay for it so we have what we have .
Thank John Q public .Imagine going back in time and telling ppl what the state of ailines would be from then till now and they would think you were nuts.:(

Don,t call me surely !

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Originally Posted by HPilot (Post 344512)

HP,

I deleted my previous because after reading it I was disappointed in myself. Based on your previous posts I would think that this industry is not where you should be. Also it looks like the box haulers are doing pretty good so why slame them with your "pathetic" comment. Please don't put down those who chose to "buy" their type rating when obviously you must have invested something in your new career. I think my investment turned out pretty good and I hope yours does also.

I had an Alaska Capt on my jumpseat yesterday. Super guy - I hope you folks at Alaska prevail. He was laughing at Alaska management's strategy of countering VA by offering cookies - yep, that will sway the passengers.

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Originally Posted by HPilot (Post 344512)

The only jobs worth having in aviation now are hauling boxes. How pathetic is that?

About $200K/yr as an f/o pathetic.

One quick word about HPilot and his comment (The only jobs worth having in aviation now are hauling boxes. How pathetic is that?). If you put it in context, I think he was decrying the state of passenger airlines today. Gone are the days when people dressed in their Sunday best to go flying after forking over good money. Today, the majority of the flying public come on board wearing t-shirts and flip flops, and toss their garbage bag "carry on" into the bin crushing everyone else's replica Burberry trench coat.

The following is from a Seattle Times columnist, Ron Judd, in today's edition:

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Game on.

Virgin America airlines touched down at Sea-Tac with its fleet of shiny, new Airbus A320s last week, setting the stage for a catfight with hometown Alaska Airlines for California travel business.

You've gotta hand it to Alaska: They might not be able to get you your bags within an hour, but they've met the Virgin America assault at every turn:

Virgin: Premium leather seats, mood lighting. Alaska: Premium leather mood pretzels.

Virgin: 9-inch video touch screens with on-demand movies, live TV, food menus, video games, seat-to-seat chatting. Alaska: On-demand cabin pressure; seat-to-seat chatting on back of 9-inch barf bag (BYO stubby pencil).

Virgin: High-tech remotes, power plugs at every seat in coach. Alaska: One hot cotton towel, shared among first-class passengers.

Coming soon from Virgin: Wi-Fi. Coming soon from Alaska: Bitter pilots' strike.

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Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 346501)

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The following is from a Seattle Times columnist, Ron Judd, in today's edition:

Interesting how the "home town" journalist seems to like beating up on HIS states airline. How pathetic is that? Guys like him must really appreciate the constant undercutting to get to the "greyhound" crowd. Hopefully they'll import some foreign journalist to undercut his "petty job" and then he can pout while we sit back and laugh at him. Pretty sad in my book. Funny how the cost of fuel, airplanes, gate leases, MX costs, insurance, advertising, etc., have ALL gone up, but the quality of our passengers has gone so far down it's embarassing, and yet new airlines are FIGHTING to lower the bar even more to attract even lower class flying passengers. Next thing you know we'll have a "welfare airline" that'll accept foodstamps and welfare checks for payment..........:rolleyes: