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Old 03-26-2008 | 04:53 PM
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Ah Joel.....nothing like the venerable Hercules..... just maybe the greatest Turboprop EVER built.
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Old 03-26-2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by joel payne
I remember back before most of you were born, ferrying 2 C-130's from Barbers Pt, HI to Marietta, GA to fix cracked wing spars. Seems like nothing has changed.
Hey Joel
Not much changes with the C-130 (right HercDrivcer130)? I worked extensively on THE CURRENT C-130 corrosion and wing crack issues while at Mother MAC (I mean AMC) in 2004. Now I'm flying them around the flagpole--again! Same tails, same issues, same bandaids. A small correction to HercDriver130: it's definately the greatest Turboprop ever built!

Sorry to stray from the thread....
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Old 03-26-2008 | 05:17 PM
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I was trying to be humble...... i had the greatest time flying C-130's at POPE AFB, 317 TAW, 40 TAS, 1987-1992. "E" models...1963, 64's, 68's and 70's. Ah to fly "Frankenherc" just one more time......

just something i found on the net....

http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/alfor...cle.asp?id=833
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Old 03-26-2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dannolars
Never a good thing to have issues with wiring, we had some issues like that in our wings that caused our fuel panel to do some crazy things--not fun. Good luck to them.
Or how about structural issues in supersonic fighters (aka F-15C's) that take 10 fold the stress of a C-17 every sortie. That also causes some crazy things as well - like breaking in two pieces.
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Old 03-26-2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
Just a few quotes from another thread about SWA's proposed FAA fine from about a week ago with "SW" changed to "AA." Mind you, these are not my quotes, they belong to EagleDriver (American Airlines guy) and other select few. I wish no bad news on anyone out there, let's just be a little careful about what we say about each other and finger pointing if we are truly professional pilots, particularly when dealing with breathless media articles that haven't been proven accurate, as they are rarely the whole story.
Luv Jockey,

I agree with your quoted statements about AA. Most of the statements in the other thread about SW now apply to AA. I don't wish any bad news on anyone either - my previous posts weren't a slam against SW the airline they were a slam against some incompetents who compromised the safety of the traveling public. I have no desire to backpedal and downplay events that adversely affect the safety of the airplanes that people, including me, fly on daily regardless of the airline.

I hope more information about this is exposed to public scrutiny and I hope that if incompetence or malfeasance is uncovered the perpetrators are prosecuted. So far it sounds very similar to the events at SW last week only it involved more aircraft. ( "An AD was complied with but we are going to ground the aircraft anyway just to make sure." Right!) I can't wait to hear the real story.

The biggest difference between what happened at SW last week and what happened at AA today is that SW suspended the individuals involved rather quickly once it hit the press. AMR will give a huge $$$ bonus in the form of PUP bucks to the individuals who created the mess at AA, and then they'll put their PR team to work on squelching the story.

Fly Safe!

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Old 03-26-2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapdog
Or how about structural issues in supersonic fighters (aka F-15C's) that take 10 fold the stress of a C-17 every sortie. That also causes some crazy things as well - like breaking in two pieces.

I was probably the hamfist that broke all those F-15's. I guess I'm just lucky they lasted until now.

I wonder if the fuselage cracks on the F-15's has anything to do with the funding of the F-22 program?
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Old 03-27-2008 | 05:35 AM
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Saw a piece on the Today show this morning…

They said the issue is about how the wiring is attached to walls of the wheel well. Must be attached every inch, so they had to make sure that the tie-downs are no more than 1.5 inches apart.

I’ll bet if they asked MD, oops…Boeing, they could get FAA approval to wait a day or two until the planes made it back through a mx base to check.

But then, that’s what got SWA a $10M fine.

At least the FAA is being reasonable, kinda like making sure the pilots don’t have toenail clippers in their suitcase which they will then place in cockpit right next to the crash axe.
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Old 03-27-2008 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleDriver
I was probably the hamfist that broke all those F-15's. I guess I'm just lucky they lasted until now.

I wonder if the fuselage cracks on the F-15's has anything to do with the funding of the F-22 program?
Hmmm. If I remember correctly the C-141 had all kinds of wing cracks as they were fighting for the C-17 funding. They came up with a "fix" shortly after the C-17 was comming on line.
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Old 03-28-2008 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dannolars
Yeah, more than anyone would like to acknowledge. They are already getting beat down with our ops tempo. But, such is life now in the AF. And we still look good doing it
Boeing may be opening the door for the next airlifter to also be produced by a foreign company.
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Old 03-28-2008 | 05:33 AM
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EagleDriver - you're hardcore, but at least you're consistent!
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