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shortage ha????????? last I hear hundred of pilots were getting laid off. Fuel, age 65, mergers ahead I assure you there WILL NEVER BE A PILOT SHORTAGE

Check with the Aloha pilots who are soon to be without a seat and see how quickly these current and eminently qualified personnel are hired by the airlines with "pilot shortages"!

Might be something lost in translation...

Could it be that the author, Mr. Cam Hui, is referring to the height of our pilots, when he talks of pilot shortages?

The Chinese can be very tall.

I think the shortage of pilots has to do with the low payin jobs out there.Also in the school Im training 98% of the student are from India and I've seen only a few american pilots in training (3 or 4).
I'm currently in training to get my instrument rating and then my commercial pilot license (I have 600 with argentinain licenses and getting FAA licenses now) and my bank account in only 2 weeks of training and just 6.5 hour of dual was $1400 short.
To be a pilot now days is too expensive and the starting payin jobs are ridiculus.Thats why there is a shortage of pilots,in my honest opinion.Nobody wants to spend $70.000 and up to get a $18.000 job.

future will tell...right?

Multi Crew License

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Originally Posted by MTOP (Post 353688)

Your analysis is quite accurate. Pilot training in North America is not well organized as an industry and has not produced the capacity necessary to meet the demand. This is in part due to the fact that flight instruction is primarily administered by the very same pilots that make up the entry-level of the commercial airlines. In the U.S., flight instruction is given primarily by the least experienced and least qualified from among the available pilots, and those same inexperienced pilots have been in demand by airline companies seeking to employ the inexperienced pilots at the lowest possible cost.

While the possibility of an economic recession in the U.S., coupled with recent air carrier failures and those soon to come may provide a short-term adjustment in supply, the long term solution to any pilot shortage will require a fundamental change to the way in which pilots are recruited, trained and paid.

The creation of the Multi-Crew License will insure a limitless supply of cheaply made and cheaply paid pilots. In time US airlines will start up cadet programs just like in Europe and will then have a slave resource of indentured servants.

SkyHigh

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Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 353823)

I agree.. The supply of irrational people willing to throw away a fortune on such a miserable return is what is in short supply. Pilot starts have been taking a nose dive over the last 5 years.

SkyHigh

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 353702)

but who will make those changes. It needs to be us and the unions. Kind of like the AMA for Doctors. If we can do that then we have a fighting chance.

What you say is true; however, the problem with it is the same problem we've had for the last thirty years--no cohesiveness or solidarity among pilots. While this may change with a true, extreme pilot shortage, we have a long way to go to reach that point.

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Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 353823)

You're right about that. Not worth it anymore. Flying is fun, but you can do that on the weekends

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Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 353853)

Unfortunately, you're right. The industry is engineering to solve the problem of pilots once and for all--the next best thing to UAVs, which the market might not accept.