CAL Update II
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I'm quite sure you're not in any position to teach me about ALPA. And I'm 100% certain I didn't say anywhere or ever that ALPA or CAL MEC needed to advise cessation of open time pickup. I clearly stated that pilots needed to educate each other on the matter so that doing more with less discontinues asap. Of all people, someone in your shoes should support that notion, or would you prefer for no new jobs to be created at the major level?
Something as small as your "suggestion" to not pick up open time, on this website could be used by some scum lawyer, you know that as well as I, thats all I was saying
Last edited by JoeyMeatballs; 04-02-2008 at 09:15 AM.
#12
I see, becuase you are at a "REAL" airline you know all there is to know about UNIONS/Labor law and how they work. Seems like you need to be educated becuase you can't have a grassroots campaign to stop picking up open time. Do I think its a great idea???? yeah I do. I am on your side believe me, I'm just beyond tired of Labor not having any authority to do anything, such as not picking up open time. As far as the uniform, I agree you can't get respect if you look like a slob but unfortunately that won't do a thing.
And please amigo, it's because, not becuase. On days I'm not acting as uniform cop, it's spelling nazi.

Now, let's leave this thread for what it is: CAL updates, not my personal soapbox.
P.S. I'll take my chances with the lawyers hunting me down on APC. I'm about to marry one. So yes, I do know a bit about labor law. And yes, I know you're related to one.
Last edited by LifeNtheFstLne; 04-02-2008 at 09:25 AM.
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#16
You might want to get some info on the 49 individual DAL pilots who were sued, along with DALPA for doing exactly what you mentioned. It has happened before and cost a lot of time and money to defend. Just a head's up brah.
#17
I'm with you on the uniform issue. If nothing else, we should take pride in our appearance as well as our profession no matter how bad things are in the industry. Chances are if you look like a dirtbag you probably aren't far from it.
#18
So, aside from all the rest of the stuff on here, thanks for the update on the CAL hiring situation. I was in the 22 April class that was nixed. As of right now I haven't heard anything, and am still wondering what will happen. I assume I enter a pool, and hopefully hiring will pick up in the fall sometime. I still feel like I got kicked in the...
Anyone else in my shoes? I am very curious to see how many are in the pool and what anyone else knows. Please, keep the updates coming and again, thanks for the nice update LifeNtheFstlne.
Anyone else in my shoes? I am very curious to see how many are in the pool and what anyone else knows. Please, keep the updates coming and again, thanks for the nice update LifeNtheFstlne.
Last edited by dannolars; 04-02-2008 at 10:28 AM. Reason: took out some nasty words
#19
Pilots should not pick up open time. Go home on your days off. It's not illeagal not to work on your days off or suggest it to others. Every trip you pick up means one less trip for a potential new hire. Take your vacation too. While I'm at it, if you're over 60- retire. I'd like to see us hire 300 former Aloha pilots than to have 300 scabs around for 5 more years.
If you don't want to wear the uniform properly, find another job. Jacket buttoned and hat on properly (not like a bus driver). We are professional pilots. I was embarassed by some of my peers on the Wallstreet picket line. I really enjoyed the "light gray" overcoats.
I realize 20-30 years will fade a black jacket to gray, so just replace it. We all took this job knowing that we wore uniforms, so there are no surprises. Just wear it and wear it correctly. I personally hate hats and ties, but I wear them (in view of the public).
If you don't want to wear the uniform properly, find another job. Jacket buttoned and hat on properly (not like a bus driver). We are professional pilots. I was embarassed by some of my peers on the Wallstreet picket line. I really enjoyed the "light gray" overcoats.
I realize 20-30 years will fade a black jacket to gray, so just replace it. We all took this job knowing that we wore uniforms, so there are no surprises. Just wear it and wear it correctly. I personally hate hats and ties, but I wear them (in view of the public).
#20
So, aside from all the rest of the stuff on here, thanks for the update on the CAL hiring situation. I was in the 22 April class that was nixed. As of right now I haven't heard anything, and am still wondering what will happen. I assume I enter a pool, and hopefully hiring will pick up in the fall sometime. I still feel like I got kicked in the...
Anyone else in my shoes? I am very curious to see how many are in the pool and what anyone else knows. Please, keep the updates coming and again, thanks for the nice update LifeNtheFstlne.
Anyone else in my shoes? I am very curious to see how many are in the pool and what anyone else knows. Please, keep the updates coming and again, thanks for the nice update LifeNtheFstlne.
Don't you love this industry?!Question for the tech savvy computer geeks out there: As you FMS users know, some software programs offer suggestions for optimum/recommended/max altitude. Naturally, we attempt to abide by those and save some coins on fuel and/or time. Of course it takes into account a few variables and is fairly dynamic. Would it be possible to write a software program that continually looks at ALL the variables and presents a lateral course representation on a map display of suggested routing? Obviously the software programming for the vertical axis works fine, so it would be great to know that asking for direct XYZ would make a difference laterally without trial and error. This is poorly worded, I know. But does anyone follow me? One would surmise that coupled with ADS-B (eventually) that type of graphical depiction would save.... I dunno...money --> our jobs. Lastly, I've been scouring the news lately for any word of more pressure being put on the FAA to improve the technology of the ATC system. I figured by now the airlines would be screaming for change with oil being what it is. I don't consider capping NYC area departures an all encompassing solution, but can't find info. on what progress is being made to upgrade the system. Ahhh the things you think of while sucking down fuel in holding trying to get into EWR.
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