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Old 05-25-2008 | 07:29 PM
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The 90 day lookback is for the "B" plan is that correct ?

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Old 05-26-2008 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
That only holds true if you can fill the seats.
We do.
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Old 05-26-2008 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
The 90 day lookback is for the "B" plan is that correct ?

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Yes it is. You must be over 50 yrs, and have submitted your retirement papers.
By the end of each month, you must call your local flt office and tell them "I am not retiring the 1st of next month" or "I am retiring the 1st of next month." If you were locked in, then you can go back and pick the highest B Fund value for the last 90 days. But only from the time you first gave your retirement notice. So some pilots have been locked in for a long time and are calling at the end of each month.
Thus AA never really knows how many might retire each month.
But it's their system and they designed it. With a little help form APA.

Here are the current B fund value.
Some pilots with 30 years have 15,000 units to 20,000 units.

The A fund is currently doing very well in times of economic uncertainty.
And we have a no-match 401K.

B-Fund $112.383
Adjusted Unit Value for the Pilot Variable Plan (Plan "B")

2006 Year End Audited Unit Value (December 31, 2006) - $116.268


Date Unit Value April 30, 2008 $112.383 March 31, 2008 $106.831 February 29, 2008 $114.642 January 31, 2008 $116.500 December 31, 2007 $125.441 November 30, 2007 $126.370 October 31, 2007 $131.944 September 30, 2007 $128.344 August 31, 2007 $123.235 July 31, 2007 $123.235 June 30, 2007 $127.067 May 31, 2007 $127.880 April 30, 2007 $123.583
This info is for many whom aren't aware of AA's retirement systems.
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Old 05-26-2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
Hopefully its not true. But if it is... they would be furloughing the same guys who just came back to class in the last few months after being on a long furlough.
That would really suck for those guys, who probably quit a job to go back to AA.
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Old 05-26-2008 | 09:14 AM
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maybe if you guys taxied faster you'd waste less fuel...
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Old 05-26-2008 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO
Yes it is. You must be over 50 yrs, and have submitted your retirement papers.
By the end of each month, you must call your local flt office and tell them "I am not retiring the 1st of next month" or "I am retiring the 1st of next month." If you were locked in, then you can go back and pick the highest B Fund value for the last 90 days. But only from the time you first gave your retirement notice. So some pilots have been locked in for a long time and are calling at the end of each month.
Thus AA never really knows how many might retire each month.
But it's their system and they designed it. With a little help form APA.

Here are the current B fund value.
Some pilots with 30 years have 15,000 units to 20,000 units.

The A fund is currently doing very well in times of economic uncertainty.
And we have a no-match 401K.

B-Fund $112.383
Adjusted Unit Value for the Pilot Variable Plan (Plan "B")

2006 Year End Audited Unit Value (December 31, 2006) - $116.268


Date Unit Value April 30, 2008 $112.383 March 31, 2008 $106.831 February 29, 2008 $114.642 January 31, 2008 $116.500 December 31, 2007 $125.441 November 30, 2007 $126.370 October 31, 2007 $131.944 September 30, 2007 $128.344 August 31, 2007 $123.235 July 31, 2007 $123.235 June 30, 2007 $127.067 May 31, 2007 $127.880 April 30, 2007 $123.583
This info is for many whom aren't aware of AA's retirement systems.
Good work 7576FO. One thing I will add is the A fund is currently funded to 115%, no worries there for awhile. Also, AA is actually saving money (about $150 million a year) because of age 65. That's because they get to re-figure longer pilot careers and fewer retirement years before death.
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Old 06-02-2008 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by capoetc
That would really suck for those guys, who probably quit a job to go back to AA.
UNDERstatement of the decade.

Hopefully, no furloughs and just the end of recalls until '09.
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Old 06-02-2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by the turtle
maybe if you guys taxied faster you'd waste less fuel...
Provocative comment....for a turtle I mean.
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Old 06-02-2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by the turtle
maybe if you guys taxied faster you'd waste less fuel...
Yes. That's what's wrong with the airline industry. Slow taxi pilots and their wasteful fuel management. AA's problems or any other airline problems have very little to do with their pilots and a LOT to do with their management teams.
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