Southwest + EMB 190s?
#11
SWA studied 190's a few years ago and rejected them, so the thought has occurred to them. Also, in this business ( as in any business), never say never. Besides, even if they did get them, payrates would probably be industry leading like their 737 pay, so no need for panic.
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IF, BIG "IF", SWA was to ever add E-jets or the new C series, you can bet they would be mainline, with SWAPA and Company negotiating a good thing for everyone involved.
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#17
I would have to dig up the article, but I'm almost positive there is a TA that says all Southwest branded flying will be flown by pilots on the SWA seniority list (the FAs also got the same agreement). I was told if it says Southwest on the plane, it will be SWA pilots.
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I would have to dig up the article, but I'm almost positive there is a TA that says all Southwest branded flying will be flown by pilots on the SWA seniority list (the FAs also got the same agreement). I was told if it says Southwest on the plane, it will be SWA pilots.
#19
This is right out of the CBA. The way I read it, the company could contact out flying, but the aircraft would have to be flown by SWAPA pilots working under the CBA.
A. RECOGNITION/SCOPE
This Agreement is made and entered into between Southwest Airlines Co. (hereinafter known as the "Company" ) and the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (hereinafter known as the "Association").
The purpose of this Agreement, in the mutual interest of the Company and the Association, is to provide for the operation of the Company under methods which will further, to the fullest extent possible, the safety of air transportation the efficiency of operation and the continuation of employment if all pilots under reasonable working conditions and proper compensation. It is recognized to be the duty of the Company, the Association and the employees to cooperate fully for the attainment of the purposes.
The Company hereby recognizes the Association as the sole collective bargaining representative if the Airline Pilots and Flight Engineers of the Company. For purposes of this agreement, "Company" will include Southwest Airlines Co., and any subsidiary company, and any wholly owned, or partially owned and controlled company engaged in transporting passengers by air.
This agreement will be binding upon the parties hereto, their successors, administrators, executors, and assigns. It is agreed that if the company voluntarily transfers the control, operation, or management of substantially all of the assets of its business to another person, entity, company, corporation, or firm for the purpose of enabling such transferee to conduct scheduled flight operations over the Company's routes, the company will require such transferee to assume the obligations of this agreement by specific provision in the agreement of transfer; and it being understood that the company Considers the members of the bargaining unit to be thoroughly competent employees (except where recent disciplinary suspensions are part of the employee's person ell file). The company will give its highest recommendation that any such transferee permanently employ those individuals who are employed with the bargaining unit at time of such transfer.
A. RECOGNITION/SCOPE
This Agreement is made and entered into between Southwest Airlines Co. (hereinafter known as the "Company" ) and the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (hereinafter known as the "Association").
The purpose of this Agreement, in the mutual interest of the Company and the Association, is to provide for the operation of the Company under methods which will further, to the fullest extent possible, the safety of air transportation the efficiency of operation and the continuation of employment if all pilots under reasonable working conditions and proper compensation. It is recognized to be the duty of the Company, the Association and the employees to cooperate fully for the attainment of the purposes.
The Company hereby recognizes the Association as the sole collective bargaining representative if the Airline Pilots and Flight Engineers of the Company. For purposes of this agreement, "Company" will include Southwest Airlines Co., and any subsidiary company, and any wholly owned, or partially owned and controlled company engaged in transporting passengers by air.
This agreement will be binding upon the parties hereto, their successors, administrators, executors, and assigns. It is agreed that if the company voluntarily transfers the control, operation, or management of substantially all of the assets of its business to another person, entity, company, corporation, or firm for the purpose of enabling such transferee to conduct scheduled flight operations over the Company's routes, the company will require such transferee to assume the obligations of this agreement by specific provision in the agreement of transfer; and it being understood that the company Considers the members of the bargaining unit to be thoroughly competent employees (except where recent disciplinary suspensions are part of the employee's person ell file). The company will give its highest recommendation that any such transferee permanently employ those individuals who are employed with the bargaining unit at time of such transfer.
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