mccain and AMR
08-27-2008 | 06:36 AM
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mccain and AMR
I have heard that mccain's son works as a pilot for American. Any details and is he aviation friendly?
08-27-2008 | 06:41 AM
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He is aviation industry friendly... meaning the airlines as a corporation. He has a long record of voting against unions.
McCain Against Aviation Labor Rights
Led the fight to impose “baseball style arbitration” on bargaining disputes to help management and hurt workers [S. 1327, 8/2/2001]
Blocked FedEx workers from forming a union [H.R. 3539, Vote #304, 10/3/96]
Fought to gut pilots’ pension rights [S. Amdt. 3159 to H.R. 11, Vote #231, 9/23/92]
Backed Eastern Airlines’ bankruptcy plan, which avoided labor negotiations and
destroyed 43,000 jobs
[H.R. 1231, Vote #276, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #273, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #222, 10/3/89]
Opposes bargaining rights for U.S. flight crews flying abroad [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Would not support bargaining rights for FAA workers [Refused to cosponsor S. 2201, 2006]
Voted against the Employee Free Choice Act card check legislation [H.R. 800, Vote #227, 6/26/07]
Backs companies that fire or replace lawfully striking workers [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S. 55, Vote #121, 6/16/92]
Believes that addressing flight attendant fatigue is “ridiculous”
[Press release, “Senator McCain Statement on Lobbying and Ethics Reform Bill,” 1/4/07]
Sent thousands of aviation manufacturing jobs overseas by voting for trade deals with Japan
[S.J. Res. 113, Vote #175, 9/13/89; S. Amdt. 101 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #67, 5/16/89; S. Admt. 102 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #66, 5/16/89]
Opposed rehiring unemployed PATCO workers fired by Ronald Reagan [Molinari Amdt. to H.R. 5205, Vote #267, 7/30/86]
Bush Administration called a bill providing unemployment benefits for laid-off airline workers “excessive” [Crawley, John, “Bush Opposes GOP-Led Plans for Airline Aid,” Reuters, 4/3/03]
McCain agrees: voted against jobless benefits for laid off airline workers [S. Amt. 1855 to S.1447, Vote #293, 10/11/01]
In 2006, McCain pushed George Bush’s agenda to allow foreign interests to takeover U.S. airlines [S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06]
Bragged about his legislation to double foreign investment in U.S. airlines
[S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06; ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S.1628, 8/2/1991]
Wants to allow foreign airlines to fly between U.S. cities, saying “I believe that the U.S. policy on cabotage should be relaxed.”
[ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Voted to allow foreign cargo carriers to operate in U.S. [H.R. 2115, Vote #453, 11/17/03]
McCain Against Aviation Labor Rights
Led the fight to impose “baseball style arbitration” on bargaining disputes to help management and hurt workers [S. 1327, 8/2/2001]
Blocked FedEx workers from forming a union [H.R. 3539, Vote #304, 10/3/96]
Fought to gut pilots’ pension rights [S. Amdt. 3159 to H.R. 11, Vote #231, 9/23/92]
Backed Eastern Airlines’ bankruptcy plan, which avoided labor negotiations and
destroyed 43,000 jobs
[H.R. 1231, Vote #276, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #273, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #222, 10/3/89]
Opposes bargaining rights for U.S. flight crews flying abroad [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Would not support bargaining rights for FAA workers [Refused to cosponsor S. 2201, 2006]
Voted against the Employee Free Choice Act card check legislation [H.R. 800, Vote #227, 6/26/07]
Backs companies that fire or replace lawfully striking workers [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S. 55, Vote #121, 6/16/92]
Believes that addressing flight attendant fatigue is “ridiculous”
[Press release, “Senator McCain Statement on Lobbying and Ethics Reform Bill,” 1/4/07]
Sent thousands of aviation manufacturing jobs overseas by voting for trade deals with Japan
[S.J. Res. 113, Vote #175, 9/13/89; S. Amdt. 101 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #67, 5/16/89; S. Admt. 102 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #66, 5/16/89]
Opposed rehiring unemployed PATCO workers fired by Ronald Reagan [Molinari Amdt. to H.R. 5205, Vote #267, 7/30/86]
Bush Administration called a bill providing unemployment benefits for laid-off airline workers “excessive” [Crawley, John, “Bush Opposes GOP-Led Plans for Airline Aid,” Reuters, 4/3/03]
McCain agrees: voted against jobless benefits for laid off airline workers [S. Amt. 1855 to S.1447, Vote #293, 10/11/01]
In 2006, McCain pushed George Bush’s agenda to allow foreign interests to takeover U.S. airlines [S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06]
Bragged about his legislation to double foreign investment in U.S. airlines
[S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06; ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S.1628, 8/2/1991]
Wants to allow foreign airlines to fly between U.S. cities, saying “I believe that the U.S. policy on cabotage should be relaxed.”
[ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Voted to allow foreign cargo carriers to operate in U.S. [H.R. 2115, Vote #453, 11/17/03]
08-27-2008 | 06:42 AM
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I think the poster was talking about Sen. McCain's SON!
08-27-2008 | 06:45 AM
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His official John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President site has this information:
"Doug McCain has been a pilot with American Airlines since 1990. He currently flies as a First Officer on the Boeing 777 out of JFK International Airport. Prior to American Airlines, he flew the A6-E Intruder in The United States Navy. "
I can't comment about his views about unions or airline management, however. I guess past voting record is really all we have to go on.
"Doug McCain has been a pilot with American Airlines since 1990. He currently flies as a First Officer on the Boeing 777 out of JFK International Airport. Prior to American Airlines, he flew the A6-E Intruder in The United States Navy. "
I can't comment about his views about unions or airline management, however. I guess past voting record is really all we have to go on.
08-27-2008 | 06:49 AM
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Nevertheless... after 8 years of failed policies and the highest amount of cool-aid ever served to the american people. It is time to get rid of the "battered wife syndrome" and stop listeneing to the fear mongers.
08-27-2008 | 06:54 AM
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08-27-2008 | 07:22 AM
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WOW! This should be on every forum on APC!
He is aviation industry friendly... meaning the airlines as a corporation. He has a long record of voting against unions.
McCain Against Aviation Labor Rights
Led the fight to impose “baseball style arbitration” on bargaining disputes to help management and hurt workers [S. 1327, 8/2/2001]
Blocked FedEx workers from forming a union [H.R. 3539, Vote #304, 10/3/96]
Fought to gut pilots’ pension rights [S. Amdt. 3159 to H.R. 11, Vote #231, 9/23/92]
Backed Eastern Airlines’ bankruptcy plan, which avoided labor negotiations and
destroyed 43,000 jobs
[H.R. 1231, Vote #276, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #273, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #222, 10/3/89]
Opposes bargaining rights for U.S. flight crews flying abroad [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Would not support bargaining rights for FAA workers [Refused to cosponsor S. 2201, 2006]
Voted against the Employee Free Choice Act card check legislation [H.R. 800, Vote #227, 6/26/07]
Backs companies that fire or replace lawfully striking workers [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S. 55, Vote #121, 6/16/92]
Believes that addressing flight attendant fatigue is “ridiculous”
[Press release, “Senator McCain Statement on Lobbying and Ethics Reform Bill,” 1/4/07]
Sent thousands of aviation manufacturing jobs overseas by voting for trade deals with Japan
[S.J. Res. 113, Vote #175, 9/13/89; S. Amdt. 101 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #67, 5/16/89; S. Admt. 102 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #66, 5/16/89]
Opposed rehiring unemployed PATCO workers fired by Ronald Reagan [Molinari Amdt. to H.R. 5205, Vote #267, 7/30/86]
Bush Administration called a bill providing unemployment benefits for laid-off airline workers “excessive” [Crawley, John, “Bush Opposes GOP-Led Plans for Airline Aid,” Reuters, 4/3/03]
McCain agrees: voted against jobless benefits for laid off airline workers [S. Amt. 1855 to S.1447, Vote #293, 10/11/01]
In 2006, McCain pushed George Bush’s agenda to allow foreign interests to takeover U.S. airlines [S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06]
Bragged about his legislation to double foreign investment in U.S. airlines
[S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06; ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S.1628, 8/2/1991]
Wants to allow foreign airlines to fly between U.S. cities, saying “I believe that the U.S. policy on cabotage should be relaxed.”
[ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Voted to allow foreign cargo carriers to operate in U.S. [H.R. 2115, Vote #453, 11/17/03]
McCain Against Aviation Labor Rights
Led the fight to impose “baseball style arbitration” on bargaining disputes to help management and hurt workers [S. 1327, 8/2/2001]
Blocked FedEx workers from forming a union [H.R. 3539, Vote #304, 10/3/96]
Fought to gut pilots’ pension rights [S. Amdt. 3159 to H.R. 11, Vote #231, 9/23/92]
Backed Eastern Airlines’ bankruptcy plan, which avoided labor negotiations and
destroyed 43,000 jobs
[H.R. 1231, Vote #276, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #273, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote #222, 10/3/89]
Opposes bargaining rights for U.S. flight crews flying abroad [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Would not support bargaining rights for FAA workers [Refused to cosponsor S. 2201, 2006]
Voted against the Employee Free Choice Act card check legislation [H.R. 800, Vote #227, 6/26/07]
Backs companies that fire or replace lawfully striking workers [ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S. 55, Vote #121, 6/16/92]
Believes that addressing flight attendant fatigue is “ridiculous”
[Press release, “Senator McCain Statement on Lobbying and Ethics Reform Bill,” 1/4/07]
Sent thousands of aviation manufacturing jobs overseas by voting for trade deals with Japan
[S.J. Res. 113, Vote #175, 9/13/89; S. Amdt. 101 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #67, 5/16/89; S. Admt. 102 to S.J. Res. 113, Vote #66, 5/16/89]
Opposed rehiring unemployed PATCO workers fired by Ronald Reagan [Molinari Amdt. to H.R. 5205, Vote #267, 7/30/86]
Bush Administration called a bill providing unemployment benefits for laid-off airline workers “excessive” [Crawley, John, “Bush Opposes GOP-Led Plans for Airline Aid,” Reuters, 4/3/03]
McCain agrees: voted against jobless benefits for laid off airline workers [S. Amt. 1855 to S.1447, Vote #293, 10/11/01]
In 2006, McCain pushed George Bush’s agenda to allow foreign interests to takeover U.S. airlines [S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06]
Bragged about his legislation to double foreign investment in U.S. airlines
[S. Amdt. 3619 to H.R. 4939, 4/26/06; ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000; S.1628, 8/2/1991]
Wants to allow foreign airlines to fly between U.S. cities, saying “I believe that the U.S. policy on cabotage should be relaxed.”
[ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, February 2000]
Voted to allow foreign cargo carriers to operate in U.S. [H.R. 2115, Vote #453, 11/17/03]
Wow! Thanks, Planediveguy! I guess that as a registered republican, I shouldn't be shocked....... But I never knew that it was THAT bad. It's time for a third party.. We shouldn't be forced to choose between our jobs being sold versus our guns taken away and national security gutted..
In Unity,
B727DRVR
08-27-2008 | 07:35 AM
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From: 7ERB, no M88, no 7ER, no A320, NEXT!
08-27-2008 | 07:39 AM
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Yeah....... He posted a question to see if McCain's son, an AA pilot, is aviation friendly. That make sense.
08-27-2008 | 07:41 AM
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Before you mistake Obama/Biden as pilot-freindly, read this:
Rhetorical Question
Michael Crowley, The New Republic Published: October 22, 2001
It's a bright early October morning on Capitol Hill. Joe Biden is bounding up the steps of the Russell Senate Office Building, wearing his trademark grin. As he makes for the door, he is met by a group of airline pilots and flight attendants looking vaguely heroic in their navy-blue uniforms and wing-shaped pins. A blandly handsome man in a pilot's cap steps forward and asks Biden to help pass emergency benefits for laid-off airline workers. Biden nods as the men and women cluster around him with fawning smiles. Then he speaks. "I hope you will support my work on Amtrak as much as I have supported you," he begins. (Biden rides Amtrak to work every day and is obsessed with the railroad.) "If not, I will screw you badly."
A dozen faces fall in unison as Biden lectures on. "You've not been good to me. You're also damn selfish. You better listen to me..." It goes on like this for a couple of minutes. Strangely, Biden keeps grinning--even fraternally slapping the stunned man's shoulder a couple of times. When we finally head into the building, Biden's communications director, Norm Kurz, turns to me. "What you just witnessed is classic Senator Biden."
Michael Crowley is a senior editor at The New Republic.
Here's the link to the entire article:
Rhetorical Question
The rest of the article:
Rhetorical Question
Rhetorical Question
Michael Crowley, The New Republic Published: October 22, 2001
It's a bright early October morning on Capitol Hill. Joe Biden is bounding up the steps of the Russell Senate Office Building, wearing his trademark grin. As he makes for the door, he is met by a group of airline pilots and flight attendants looking vaguely heroic in their navy-blue uniforms and wing-shaped pins. A blandly handsome man in a pilot's cap steps forward and asks Biden to help pass emergency benefits for laid-off airline workers. Biden nods as the men and women cluster around him with fawning smiles. Then he speaks. "I hope you will support my work on Amtrak as much as I have supported you," he begins. (Biden rides Amtrak to work every day and is obsessed with the railroad.) "If not, I will screw you badly."
A dozen faces fall in unison as Biden lectures on. "You've not been good to me. You're also damn selfish. You better listen to me..." It goes on like this for a couple of minutes. Strangely, Biden keeps grinning--even fraternally slapping the stunned man's shoulder a couple of times. When we finally head into the building, Biden's communications director, Norm Kurz, turns to me. "What you just witnessed is classic Senator Biden."
Michael Crowley is a senior editor at The New Republic.
Here's the link to the entire article:
Rhetorical Question
The rest of the article:
Rhetorical Question
