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USMCFLYR 09-05-2008 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by dannolars (Post 456424)
That is exactly how I feel, everytime I try to take a peek into the cockpit the FA gives me a "oh hell no" look while moving to cut me off just in case I try to lunge inside for a fire handle or something. I then meander back to my seat feeling like a frickin' criminal who has done nothing other than try to see some buds and check out the cockpit. Just happened
Monday on my way home from a trip.
Happened to me too on Monday in a EMB-120 out of San Diego. Hey - can't a pilot get some love? :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR

USMCFLYR 09-05-2008 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 456497)
Probably not.
They are not on my JS list.
They would need to be in CASS to use any 121 jumpseat.
Exactly - so this whole question of checking in seems to be blown out of proportion. Thanks for the insight though.

USMCFLYR

dojetdriver 09-05-2008 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 456497)
Probably not.
They are not on my JS list.
I though there was a FRAC out there that had a JD agreement with 1 or 2 carriers, but not enough to matter. CS maybe?

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 456497)
They would need to be in CASS to use any 121 jumpseat.
They would need to be in CASS to occupy the ACTUAL cockpit JS, but not to use the JS privelege to occupy and empty seat in the cabin.

DAL4EVER 09-05-2008 05:52 PM
Okay, I think we've proven that Netjets guys don't have to check in nor are they eligible for the jumpseat since they are not 121 or in CASS. Next......

CRJDriver 09-05-2008 06:04 PM
I can't believe this thread has been going on for 4 pages...:rolleyes:

dojetdriver 09-05-2008 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 456613)
Okay, I think we've proven that Netjets guys don't have to check in nor are they eligible for the jumpseat since they are not 121 or in CASS. Next......
Being 121 has not to much to do with it either. Many companies that are non 121/supplmental AND 135 have JS agreements with various carriers.

Bluto 09-05-2008 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 456540)
Happened to me too on Monday in a EMB-120 out of San Diego. Hey - can't a pilot get some love? :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR
Considering they were probably on leg x of 8, with a 19 minute turn, and there's nowhere for the FA to go if you want to peek in the flight deck, I'd consider cutting them some slack. It was like pulling teeth just to get them to let us out to do a walk-around, sometimes.

USMCFLYR 09-05-2008 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 456640)
Considering they were probably on leg x of 8, with a 19 minute turn, and there's nowhere for the FA to go if you want to peek in the flight deck, I'd consider cutting them some slack. It was like pulling teeth just to get them to let us out to do a walk-around, sometimes.
Bluto -

I don't need to cut them any slack because I wasn't giving them any grief. I was making a point that I like to look into the cockpits of airplanes but that it is either inconveinent to do so or the FAs are blocking the view and I'm certainly not going to ask them to move so I can get a better view. It was pretty late in the evening so I'm sure that they were probably on the backside of those 8 legs you speak of and yes - it was a very quick turn; plus I'm impressed that the CA was the one doing the walk around.

USMCFLYR

dojetdriver 09-05-2008 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 456646)
they were probably on the backside of those 8 legs you speak of and yes - it was a very quick turn; plus I'm impressed that the CA was the one doing the walk around.

USMCFLYR
It's not uncommon. ESPECIALLY if the above case is true. After spending that much time in the plane, going over the paperwork, programming the box, and possibly trying to get some other collateral duties done after mulitple quick turns during a long duty day, it's nice as the CA to get out of the plane and walk while the FO sits indside for once. More so when the weather is nice, like in SAN;).

Besides, some CA's just prefer to do the walk around.

USMCFLYR 09-05-2008 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 456652)
It's not uncommon. ESPECIALLY if the above case is true. After spending that much time in the plane, going over the paperwork, programming the box, and possibly trying to get some other collateral duties done after mulitple quick turns during a long duty day, it's nice as the CA to get out of the plane and walk while the FO sits indside for once. More so when the weather is nice, like in SAN;).

Besides, some CA's just prefer to do the walk around.
That would certainly seem to fit what I saw - plus the quick run inside. Would that have been for paperwork or...........................facilities? :eek:

USMCFLYR


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