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Herkulesdrvr 11-09-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by SLPII (Post 494966)
If you're jumpseating, I was referring to guys who travel on confirmed tickets like those at UPS and FDX. (our companies do not require us in uniforms).

Also, at which airport do pilots in uniforms not have to remove shoes? I haven't had such luck. I think I've been scrutinized more because I WAS IN UNIFORM! Our friends at the TSA somehow have been trained that the biggest threats to terrorism are the airline's own pilots.

I have never removed my shoes. Unless you have shanks in them I wouldnt take them off.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 11-09-2008 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by lpcunity (Post 455922)
I was wondering if you guys want us to check in at the cockpit. I had one Capt confront me and tell me I was "rude" because I walked by. Others ask me why I check in with them. :confused:

I agree with Jetjock. Personally, I always try to say hi without blocking the isle whether jumpseating (obviously) or on a ticket. Not a Netjet guy (UPS) but when I used to fly pax I liked to know if there were other crew members in the back. We looked at them as our unarmed back-up FAMs...

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 11-09-2008 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by SLPII (Post 494966)
... Also, at which airport do pilots in uniforms not have to remove shoes? I haven't had such luck. I think I've been scrutinized more because I WAS IN UNIFORM! Our friends at the TSA somehow have been trained that the biggest threats to terrorism are the airline's own pilots.

Get shoes without metal shanks and you won't have to, haven't had to take off my shoes at an airport for years now (while in uniform). I remember STL used to give pilot hard time about shoes but they finally caved in. Can't think of any other airport where you still have to take your shoes off while in uniform. What airport are you having problems with?

SLPII 11-09-2008 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 495019)
Get shoes without metal shanks and you won't have to, haven't had to take off my shoes at an airport for years now (while in uniform). I remember STL used to give pilot hard time about shoes but they finally caved in. Can't think of any other airport where you still have to take your shoes off while in uniform. What airport are you having problems with?

My shoes don't make any sound when going through. But the places I normally commute from all make me take them off. Maybe I'll be defiant next time. :eek:

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 11-09-2008 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by SLPII (Post 495039)
My shoes don't make any sound when going through. But the places I normally commute from all make me take them off. Maybe I'll be defiant next time. :eek:

Do they make you take them off when you're in uniform? If so ask politely to speak to a supervisor because they're breaking their own rules for uniformed crew members (for example uniformed crew members may bring liquids, etc).

When not in uniform I have to take my shoes off too...

SLPII 11-09-2008 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 495068)
Do they make you take them off when you're in uniform? If so ask politely to speak to a supervisor because they're breaking their own rules for uniformed crew members (for example uniformed crew members may bring liquids, etc).

When not in uniform I have to take my shoes off too...

Thanks for the tip, will definitely try next time..between taking out the laptop, jacket, shoes.I'm just tired of it all! I can see why most guys just prefer to ride on company..Only problem with that is the cabin is usually sub-freezing. :eek:

Mason32 11-10-2008 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by SLPII (Post 494966)
Also, at which airport do pilots in uniforms not have to remove shoes? I haven't had such luck. I think I've been scrutinized more because I WAS IN UNIFORM! Our friends at the TSA somehow have been trained that the biggest threats to terrorism are the airline's own pilots.

Haven't ever removed shoes at any station....

and to up that a bit.... been to more than a few airports where a company emblem polo shirt, dockers and your crew ID was enough to jump the line, not take off shoes, and zip right through... with all your bathroom gear still packed away. Apparently there is NO national standard from DHS/TSA on what is, is not, required. Each FSD at each airport basically is the king of his own little fiefdom.

Eric Stratton 11-10-2008 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by SLPII (Post 494966)
I think I've been scrutinized more because I WAS IN UNIFORM! Our friends at the TSA somehow have been trained that the biggest threats to terrorism are the airline's own pilots.

I know it sucks having to deal with TSA, but how easy would it be for someone to buy a pilots uniform and make up an airline ID and get through security? A company I worked for changed names and created a new ID. TSA had no idea who the company was. I got right on through.

We all know that we aren't the terrorists. Most of the passengers aren't the problem either, but they are looking for those select few out there that are.

snakeplt 11-13-2008 11:31 PM

No don't stop now...

Keep this thread going...

Do NOT let it die...


:D:rolleyes::eek:

exwaterski 11-14-2008 01:33 AM

Okay so what is the etiquette for non-revs in uniform? I check in about half the time, but if it's a full flight with other non revs and jumpseaters I just take my seat in the back so the actual jumpseaters can check in. I do feel a little "dirty" whenever I don't check in but I think it's unpractical to have a bunch of non revs all trying to poke their heads in to the cockpit during boarding. No one has ever said anything but I wonder sometimes if people look at me like "I'm running to the back" when I'm just trying to get out of the way. I always thank the crew for the ride on the way out if they happen to be standing in the door otherwise I just go on about my business. Jumpseating of course is different.


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