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10-19-2008 | 06:57 AM
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Yes and Yes. Unfortunately, you can't ride in the cockpit on any Air Mike flights as they are all considered International. You can sit in the back though if there are seats available.
10-20-2008 | 01:53 PM
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I had thought Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, as US territories (any others?), were not considered international, and thus CASS can be used to verify identities and no need to get on the Gen. Dec. (the real issue with international flight deck access).
That's not to preclude management from decreeing that they'll be treated as international per company policy (does Air Mike do this?), but, from a purely TSA and legality standpoint, I believe HNL-UAM is a domestic flight in terms of flight deck access rules.
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10-20-2008 | 02:25 PM
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Even HNL-UAM?
I had thought Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, as US territories (any others?), were not considered international, and thus CASS can be used to verify identities and no need to get on the Gen. Dec. (the real issue with international flight deck access).
That's not to preclude management from decreeing that they'll be treated as international per company policy (does Air Mike do this?), but, from a purely TSA and legality standpoint, I believe HNL-UAM is a domestic flight in terms of flight deck access rules.
Standing by . . .
I had thought Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, as US territories (any others?), were not considered international, and thus CASS can be used to verify identities and no need to get on the Gen. Dec. (the real issue with international flight deck access).
That's not to preclude management from decreeing that they'll be treated as international per company policy (does Air Mike do this?), but, from a purely TSA and legality standpoint, I believe HNL-UAM is a domestic flight in terms of flight deck access rules.
Standing by . . .
) in EWR because I am told it is a "international flight." Almost 90% of the time I had to get a hold of the CA. to get a ride, after that smooth sailing.
10-21-2008 | 09:17 AM
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Even HNL-UAM?
I had thought Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, as US territories (any others?), were not considered international, and thus CASS can be used to verify identities and no need to get on the Gen. Dec. (the real issue with international flight deck access).
That's not to preclude management from decreeing that they'll be treated as international per company policy (does Air Mike do this?), but, from a purely TSA and legality standpoint, I believe HNL-UAM is a domestic flight in terms of flight deck access rules.
Standing by . . .
I had thought Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, as US territories (any others?), were not considered international, and thus CASS can be used to verify identities and no need to get on the Gen. Dec. (the real issue with international flight deck access).
That's not to preclude management from decreeing that they'll be treated as international per company policy (does Air Mike do this?), but, from a purely TSA and legality standpoint, I believe HNL-UAM is a domestic flight in terms of flight deck access rules.
Standing by . . .
I believe you must clear customs when going from HNL-GUM and returning and its treated as an International flight by Air Mic.
10-22-2008 | 08:05 PM
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I don't fly for CAL but used to commute alot NYC-SJU.... You are absloutely correct US territories are not international, but as far as I know all these flights are dispatched under flag rules. I have been denied boarding by many un-educated CAL agents (even a borading pass thrown in my face) in EWR because I am told it is a "international flight." Almost 90% of the time I had to get a hold of the CA. to get a ride, after that smooth sailing.
) in EWR because I am told it is a "international flight." Almost 90% of the time I had to get a hold of the CA. to get a ride, after that smooth sailing.For the purposes of jumpseating, a flight is considered international if it departs from the United States (or a U.S. Territory) to a location outside the United States, or if it departs from a foreign location to the United States (or a U.S. Territory). Note that these procedures do not apply to flights between GUM and HNL, between GUM and SPN, or to flights to or from Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands. These procedures also do not apply to DOD flights.
10-22-2008 | 08:33 PM
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This may not be the best place to ask this, but it's as good as any I guess.
Anyone feel like writing two paragraphs on the distinction between "jumpseating" and "non-revving" since the terms seem to be interchangeable for about 90% of the people I talk to, and the other 10% look at me like I'm a moron when I use them incorrectly?
I ask because I was under the impression that no one does international offline "jumpseating" anymore, but based on the remarks here, now I'm wondering if this refers to the cockpit jumpseat only.
Anyone feel like writing two paragraphs on the distinction between "jumpseating" and "non-revving" since the terms seem to be interchangeable for about 90% of the people I talk to, and the other 10% look at me like I'm a moron when I use them incorrectly?
I ask because I was under the impression that no one does international offline "jumpseating" anymore, but based on the remarks here, now I'm wondering if this refers to the cockpit jumpseat only.
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