Delta STRIKE. . WHEN??
#21
Originally Posted by G-Dog
This is not a very professional comment. "Fly real airplanes"? I suppose all regional guys fly fantasy airplanes.
People in this camp live in a fantasy world . .and don’t deserve a ‘professional’ response. They are dragging down the industry and take pot shots at ‘union’ advocates, who are only trying to make a better life for everyone.
#22
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
You guys fly real planes with fantasy pay scales I guess.
SkyHigh
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Maybe you need to look at what the current pay scales of NWA and DAL............and what DAL MGT is demanding!..................Fantasy??
Your simply a hypocrit with a chip his shoulder.
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I am currently at the regional level, and love to fly every chance i get. This doesnt mean that I will work for free though.
Staying open minded to everyones thoughts are important. On one hand I can understand guys at US and other carriers not wanting to strike because of fear of lossing there job all together. You have to look out for your family and well being.
But God damn I love you Delta guys for what your doing, i wish everyone saw the big picture. I think its more than money, these ********* bean counters with there ivy league education want to push pilots around for their ****ups. People like that are always the first to blame somebody else and have no loyalty. Just think if all the airlines would stand up to this crap, people will always need to fly and the real reason for all are problems is not a lack of costumers, its pilots with little character allowing managment and LCC to run this industry into the ground.
Come on, we have all worked so hard to get are ratings, a degree, living on almost nothing the first year at a regional and getting stressed out for that next checkride or PC. I would reather lose all that Ive worked for then get paid the wage of a city bus driver. We need to take a stand before its to late.
I want you Delta guys to know how proud you make me and I know there are thousands of other pilots who feel the same way.
Staying open minded to everyones thoughts are important. On one hand I can understand guys at US and other carriers not wanting to strike because of fear of lossing there job all together. You have to look out for your family and well being.
But God damn I love you Delta guys for what your doing, i wish everyone saw the big picture. I think its more than money, these ********* bean counters with there ivy league education want to push pilots around for their ****ups. People like that are always the first to blame somebody else and have no loyalty. Just think if all the airlines would stand up to this crap, people will always need to fly and the real reason for all are problems is not a lack of costumers, its pilots with little character allowing managment and LCC to run this industry into the ground.
Come on, we have all worked so hard to get are ratings, a degree, living on almost nothing the first year at a regional and getting stressed out for that next checkride or PC. I would reather lose all that Ive worked for then get paid the wage of a city bus driver. We need to take a stand before its to late.
I want you Delta guys to know how proud you make me and I know there are thousands of other pilots who feel the same way.
#25
It's a high stakes time in this business and emotions run high obviously. My take on remlap's comment G-Dog is that he doesn't appreciate having HIS contract and HIS decisions criticized by outside critics - particularly by ignorant folks like sarcasticignorant - It's their deal not ours. Don't take his response to sarcastic too personal. Sarcastic deserved it and more. Everyone is aware that the decisions made by the Delta pilots will affect others but very few of us in this business are immune to the effects of others decisions. Do your part to make YOUR contract what you want it to be but let the Delta guys work through their tough dilemma without having to hear from guys like sarcasticignorant or all about SkyHigh's Zen Fatalism. The Delta pilots are fighting a noble cause that will benefit us all. Give them support not grief!
Last edited by calcapt; 04-05-2006 at 10:32 AM.
#26
Originally Posted by calcapt
It's a high stakes time in this business and emotions run high obviously. My take on remlap's comment G-Dog is that he doesn't appreciate having HIS contract and HIS decisions criticized by outside critics - particularly by ignorant folks like sarcasticignorant - It's their deal not ours. Don't take his response to sarcastic too personal. Sarcastic deserved it and more. Everyone is award that the decisions made by the Delta pilots will affect others but very few of us in this business are immune to the effects of others decisions. Do your part to make YOUR contract what you want it to be but let the Delta guys work through their tough dilemma without having to hear from guys like sarcasticignorant or all about SkyHigh's Zen Fatalism. The Delta pilots are fighting a noble cause that will benefit us all. Give them support not grief!
Hear, Hear..................
#29
Originally Posted by sarcasticspasti
And another thing while you've got me p!ssed off. Why is it a free market attitude is a "kool aid drinker" but all of you communists who toe the union line are not? Name a successful ALPA airline. You can't. Oh wait, Mesa, but everyone loves to crucify them for not demanding 18 days off a month and $75k starting FO pay.
With executives coming from so many different universities, personal backgrounds, and work experience, why is it that NONE OF THEM CAN MAKE AN ALPA AIRLINE PROFITABLE? Are they all idiots? Or is it the monolithic ALPA that demands impossible wages, work rules and scope? ALPA's motto should be "everyone's stupid but me!" You communists are the cool-aid drinkers.
I'll ask you an easier question. Name a profitable union INDUSTRY! You can't. Unions may have had a place when 12 year old kids were working 80 hours a week in coal mines but no more.
If blacksmiths had a union we'd still be riding horses to work.
America gives you the opportunity to seek any other career you wish, or even another employer who may pay you more to fly. Go find them, don't kill Delta and take tens of thousands of Delta and Regional jobs with you.
With executives coming from so many different universities, personal backgrounds, and work experience, why is it that NONE OF THEM CAN MAKE AN ALPA AIRLINE PROFITABLE? Are they all idiots? Or is it the monolithic ALPA that demands impossible wages, work rules and scope? ALPA's motto should be "everyone's stupid but me!" You communists are the cool-aid drinkers.
I'll ask you an easier question. Name a profitable union INDUSTRY! You can't. Unions may have had a place when 12 year old kids were working 80 hours a week in coal mines but no more.
If blacksmiths had a union we'd still be riding horses to work.
America gives you the opportunity to seek any other career you wish, or even another employer who may pay you more to fly. Go find them, don't kill Delta and take tens of thousands of Delta and Regional jobs with you.
From your reasoning only about 10 people in any corporation deserve to make any money; the CEO, COO, CFO and their closest managers. If that is how you truly feel, you picked the wrong career. You should be one of those guys, as a matter of fact it is not too late yet, go back to school and get your ******* degree and sign up. I am sure there would be room for more psychopaths like you in Americas corporations.
I, for one, don't need you to preach capitalism to me! I know what capitalism is about; the airlines want a skill, I have it, they pay the price we (unions) set. That is capitalism dillhole! You need to start thinking like a capitalist. You are the one thinking like a communist. A capitalist considers what's in it for him without killing off the corporation (much like a successful virus or parasite). A communist considers what's best for the collective (corporation) without much regard for him/herself. As a capitalist it is your duty to charge a corporation for your services. Do it!
#30
[QUOTE=sarcasticspasti]. Name a successful ALPA airline. QUOTE]
HHHHmmmmmm LET'S see..FedEX is one.
UPS is another........True they are not ALPA they are IPA and the Brotherhood of Teamsters........
Southwest is another.........Yeap they aren't ALP but they are the most heavily Unionized Carrier............and currently the Highest Paid.
Unions aren't the problem big boy
HHHHmmmmmm LET'S see..FedEX is one.
UPS is another........True they are not ALPA they are IPA and the Brotherhood of Teamsters........
Southwest is another.........Yeap they aren't ALP but they are the most heavily Unionized Carrier............and currently the Highest Paid.
Unions aren't the problem big boy
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