Funny thing is, is that the people who hate the unions the most, are the ones who NEED it the most...............:eek:

Waterboarder is partially right. Look around guys. It sucks out there. Charter jobs are even hard to come by. *** is JB management going to able to give ya in times like these? Oh, I voted for unions in my career, so save it.

Amen. And its always hilarious when the most outspoken anti-Union guy gets his butt in trouble. Because you can actually see the smoke as he goes to Zone 5 afterburner to the Union Office for help.

First of all, we all know whats going in the industry TODAY. Im not talking about TODAY, I'm talking about 20-30 years down the road when most of us will retire. How about foreseeing what areas could be problematic in the future and take care of them NOW? Do you not understand that?

You are correct, we did get a pay raise which brough us up to a level that is still lower than the rest of the industry. Kind of like buying something that was 75% over the normal price and then offering consumers those awesome 75% off sale prices. Those deals look great and you say "what a great deal." The analogy is the same.

Third party union thug?? Its JBPA, its our own people not ALPA.

Pay raise? Come on, that pay raise was a joke meant to placate the masses. I would have to be something like an 8 year E-190 captain (which I probably would be the way things are going growth wise) to make 2nd year FO pay at SWA. Guess their union "thugs" must have a clue.

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It sucks out there?...............................what would you favor, fair weather membership?



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umm, yeah dippy, it sucks out there. Looks like you HAVE a job?:confused: My former colleagues Flight Options just laid off a bunch today. They've been in a union fight for 4 years (one that I voted for). Good luck pickin' that pepper out of the fly $hit!

How? I enjoy going to work that's how. For the most part the people we work with are hard working, well intentioned and seem to care. However, things like healthcare and retirement should be much better.

You couldn't possibly agree that our healthcare and retirement are sufficient? I you have a family you are paying a lot of money to have them covered. This is not acceptable, plain and simple.

Sorry if you missed the point.

forgot to add that our contracts are not worth a hill of beans. You know and I know that if someone like Delta stepped in and wanted our planes and gates at JFK we would all be standing in the unemployment line. If you dont think its possible then I would like to sell you some land in the lower 9th ward.