DAL pilots clearing out their lockers
04-08-2006, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Well if Delta chooses to close the doors after a strike then the entire industry will enter a free fall that will make the last five years seem like the good old days.
If Delta tanks as a result of a strike then ALPA might as well fade away. And everyone else had better sell their boats and summer homes.
04-08-2006, 05:37 AM
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Lessons from a strike
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
What I meant was that id Delta's strike resulted in a shutdown of the company no one else would risk a strike and would cave to management. There would still be jobs of course and there would be a flurry of hiring at other companies as a result however they will be of the LCC variety.
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Perhaps, but that's exactly what is ALREADY happening, because so far managements have correctly guessed that pilots will cave before striking.
As you have pointed out, an aviation career is not what it used to be. Majors are becoming more like LCCs, forcing LCCs to become even lower-cost to maintain an edge--and pilots have the skills to succeed outside aviation.
The side with most to lose tends to cave first. That used to be the pilots, but it appears that things are changing.
Therefore, a strike at NWA or DAL might actually lead to more cave-ins by management.
04-08-2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Punkpilot48
As much as I give my god honest respect to the delta pilots for standing strong something tells me if they strike they will shut delta down. I woudnt want that but doesn't that seem likely?
WELL !! . . . . . .D-U-H!!!
Go read the book “Flying the Line . . and get a clue.
WHY do you suppose ALPA is taking THIS tack. There NEEDS to be the ABSOLUTE threat . . which management might FINALLY take seriously. . .one problems is that those top slime balls have EXCELLENT severance packages and golden parachutes which THEY negotiated for themselves.
If you are . . or plan to be in the ‘industry’ in a labor capacity . . you had damned well better educate yourself.
AND. . yes. . if Klinton, the Socialist would step in and shut down the strike at AAL ... GWB will MOST CERTAINLY do something. Probably force them back to work and force both parties into mediation. . WHICH is a damn sight better than what labor is being offered NOW!!
04-08-2006, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
... is too important for the National Transportation System. Govt. will order them back to work...
I've previously heard that argument about several airlines-just before they went out of business.
04-08-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
I wouldn't count on the government for that. 1)They haven't done it for any other airline yet. 2)There is an oversupply of seats in the marketplace. 3)We have Republicans controlling the White House and Congress.
I've previously heard that argument about several airlines-just before they went out of business.
I've previously heard that argument about several airlines-just before they went out of business.
04-08-2006, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
I wouldn't count on the government for that. 1)They haven't done it for any other airline yet. 2)There is an oversupply of seats in the marketplace.
Originally Posted by CVG767A
3)We have Republicans controlling the White House and Congress.
OF COURSE GWB is going to jump in and remove whatever leverage labor has! It has been threatened in the past when the FedEx pilots were making noise like we wanted to strike.
04-08-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
Delta is too important for the National Transportation System. Govt. will order them back too work. But, they will not strike.
Study your Railway Labor Act, Jack. The gub'mint can only delay it.
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04-08-2006, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
OF COURSE GWB is going to jump in and remove whatever leverage labor has!
04-08-2006, 04:19 PM
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The fall of Delta (let's pray that doesn't happen) would certainly be a boon to a company like Airtran. Suddenly all the competition they had from Delta just disappears and the traveling public will be left with less choice. And other legacy carriers would have difficulty in Atlanta since it is already an Airtran stronghold and would be dominated chiefly by low-fare domestic flights. I guess foriegn services might be a different ball game altogether at Atlanta, and perhaps one of the places a new Legacy carrier in Atlanta can actually profit from.
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