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Old 11-20-2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
A quick look at AIFDIS shows 40 737s gone, 54 to go. Also 3 747-400s gone, 3 to go. I am on reserve on the 737. I have not broken quarantee since July. Flew less than 10 hours in October. At least I have time to study for my 767 right seat bump. But I am worried that I am studying for nothing as I will probably get bumped to 320FO about the time I am doing my OE on the 767! Gosh I love this business. Maybe I can qualify for my own locker at the training center.
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Remember its darkest just befor the dawn. Two of my best friends are at UAL - hang in there.

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Old 11-21-2008 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
JSLED,
Remember its darkest just befor the dawn. Two of my best friends are at UAL - hang in there.

Scoop
Thanks Scoop. I try to find humor in everything, beats being miserable.

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Old 11-21-2008 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JPilot23
agreed about their management...

did it really make sense to paint all those 73's in the new colors when they knew they weren't going to remain in the fleet that long?
In this business, if something doesn't make sense, check ownership.

Ie. If UAL paints airplanes unnecessarily, check to see if any UAL executives or BOD members own an aircraft painting company.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
JSLED,
Remember its darkest just before the dawn. Two of my best friends are at UAL - hang in there.
It's also the darkest just before the storm hits too. Hope the drop in oil makes UAL reconsider how many to park.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
It's also the darkest just before the storm hits too. Hope the drop in oil makes UAL reconsider how many to park.
Unfortunately, I think the damage has already been done. I personally think the rapid rise in oil prices is what expanded the financial crisis we're in. When people had to put gas in their cars to get to work, their house payments suffered. And from there the ball started rolling down hill. Now that ball has gained enough speed to bump into everything and everyone in it's path. I recently visited my mom in Roswell, NM, and you wouldn't believe the number of planes PARKED out there. I'm guessing AMR has 60 or so MD-80's alone parked there......along with UPS DC-8's and B727's. It's pretty sad.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 06:08 AM
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Some of those 37,s coming from SFO ? just curious because I saw a WARN that had a lot of ppl unemployed for DEC 08
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Old 11-22-2008 | 08:46 AM
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[quote=newKnow;503894]In this business, if something doesn't make sense, check ownership.

And check your flank.

I think its more than just coincidence that Delta and Northwest filed for BK on the same day and in the same court. Also, that UAL and CAL are both furloughing and parking 737-300s. Together, UAL and CAL are parking about 150 737s. That will make the merger more "synergistic."

Prediction: neither CAL nor UAL will get contracts next year. Mgt won't give the obligatory 25% contract improvements and then additional merger enhancements. The merger will be the smokescreen for more modest gains to seal the deal. Then we will be rationalizing settling for less and with the promise of more next time when we are united (together).

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Old 11-22-2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by REAL Pilot
And check your flank.

I think its more than just coincidence that Delta and Northwest filed for BK on the same day and in the same court. Also, that UAL and CAL are both furloughing and parking 737-300s. Together, UAL and CAL are parking about 150 737s. That will make the merger more "synergistic."

Prediction: neither CAL nor UAL will get contracts next year. Mgt won't give the obligatory 25% contract improvements and then additional merger enhancements. The merger will be the smokescreen for more modest gains to seal the deal. Then we will be rationalizing settling for less and with the promise of more next time when we are united (together).

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I agree with everything you have stated. I don't want a merger, but I definately can see it occuring.

Although a merger would be difficult, I think it might be better than a joint venture agreement that allows UAL and CAL management to pit each pilot group against the other. I would much rather be one pilot group facing management, than two divided.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 10:10 AM
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Just check the orders CAL has...100ish.....just about how many UAL frames are being parked....hmmmm.
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