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Boneman 04-15-2006 05:30 PM

William:

Time for mommy to wipe your bottom and tuck you in nite-nite. Don't forget to brush your teeth. :D

mike734 04-15-2006 05:52 PM

Bill you've got a long way to catch up to the topic with the most responses. Just give up now. You'll never make it to the 365 that "So how much should a pilot be paid" got. :D

HSLD 04-15-2006 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Perhaps you should give us all a summary of the Do's and Dont's on the forum? We all "read" the "rules and terms of use", but some are not attorneys or forgot.

SkyHigh

They reside in the thread view (at the top) of every forum on the board.

Here's a link: http://forums.airlinepilotcentral.co...cement.php?f=2

Pharaoh 04-15-2006 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Kill Bill, II
i have asked for NOTHING except the opportunity to face my accuser and be made aware of what charges are being made against me, you know, just like the constitution guarantees EVERYONE?


Originally Posted by TonyC
This is not a newspaper, and the owners are not the Federal Government. You have no First Amendment rights here. It's their turf, their rules. Grab a decaf and relax.

Probably useful to note that the Sixth Amendment right "to be confronted with the witnesses against him" only applies in criminal prosecutions. The operators of the forum have no obligation to identify any alleged accuser at this time. But the operators do have the unilateral right to take steps they deem necessary based on the accusations.

HSLD 04-15-2006 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Kill Bill, II
fine. will the admins please forward me an address where you can accept service?

It's on our web site under the "contact" link.


Originally Posted by Kill Bill, II
i have asked for NOTHING except the opportunity to face my accuser and be made aware of what charges are being made against me

I offered to talk with you about this issue by phone although you didn't sound interested. I think a call would have would have resolved the ambiguity you are experiencing.


Originally Posted by Kill Bill, II
i don't have any interest in discussing anything with you on the phone as this board isn't on my priority list today or any other day.

I'm not fond of playing "I've got a secret" but it really isn't appropriate to publicly post details. Out of courtesy to you and the forum users here is my basic message for the phone call that we can't seem to agree on:

We have two concerns with respect to complaints we receive on this forum.

The first concern is; could a post made by an anonymous user cause problems for us as a business? If there is potential for legal action to develop, it's prudent for us to take some action, like pulling the post or suspending a users account. Of course if the complaint has merit there is probably a violation of the terms of service (TOS) which again could cause us to revoke or suspend a user account.

Each mention of "alleged civil or criminal misconduct" in this thread is in the context of what Dreamlaunch Media Ltd., the owners of Airline Pilot Central, do in the case of a complaint that we receive. As I've mentioned before in this thread, we judge a complaint on merit and consider how our business might be impacted should we be involved in litigation. It's for our own self-preservation, and users protection.

It's important that you, and all users, understand that: If there was impending legal action against us in which a court would force us to divulge a users IP address(es), email address, and other specific account information that could identify a users true identity we would absolutely unequivocally involve the user in the proceedings. Additionally, a judge's order is the only way we'd be compelled to divulge such information.

The second concern we have when we receive a complaint is; does the post in question violate our published terms of service and/or forum rules? Occasionally it's a judgement call, although in most cases it's pretty clear whether or not a post crosses the line. Either way, we reserve the right to make that call as we see fit and any action is at our sole discretion. Some forums have a "penalty box", we do not. The forum rules and TOS are there to meet our goal to maintain a board for professional pilots to discuss piloting issues - like adults. If conducting oneself online like a responsible adult is problem, than this is clearly the wrong forum and we will not beg a user to follow our rules.

So for the user "Kill Bill",
  • Is there a complaint about a post that has the potential to become litigation? Yes.
  • Is there there pending litigation as a result of the post in question? Not to our knowledge.
  • Did the post clearly violate forum rules and the TOS? Absolutely.
Finally, you leave me with a problem to solve. You've identified yourself as the user "Kill Bill" who's account is degraded because of a liability that you've created for us. Allowing you to continue to post as Kill Bill II really isn't an option for me, but I am open to suggestions. What do you suggest?

Freighter Captain 04-16-2006 07:49 AM

HSLD, my vote is to toss Kill Bill.

PS: I think he's yanking your chain, he's probably a 14 year old whose parents are notably absent in his life.

FrankKC10 04-16-2006 08:13 AM

Kill Bill: Per your offer, the majority has spoken, time for you to leave.

edik 04-16-2006 11:58 AM

Finally, its time to get KB out of here. Seriously, i have never seen someone ***** so much. When ever i read his posts, there was nothing positive that came from him. I always thought he was just having a bad day, but he is just like SkyLow!!!


edik

757Driver 04-16-2006 01:23 PM

I vote he stays. I'm quite tired of the pantywaists on here who constantly toe the company line and KB is a great counter-weight for those fools.

Welcome back KB.

Ranger 04-16-2006 02:18 PM

I feel strongly both ways.

Eric Stratton 04-16-2006 03:49 PM

I think he should stay.

By the way I would also like to know what he did (specifically) that warrants kicking him off. Did he upset someone or his company?

Boneman 04-16-2006 04:01 PM

I think he should stay too, but J.C. get over it already.

Brown Dog 04-16-2006 06:31 PM

757 Driver actually is Kill Bill
 
:rolleyes: Any bets that 757 driver actually IS the one and only, supreme dorkness himself, Kill Bill? Don't sue me 757 if I'm wrong...lol

Brown Dog

757Driver 04-16-2006 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Brown Dog
:rolleyes: Any bets that 757 driver actually IS the one and only, supreme dorkness himself, Kill Bill? Don't sue me 757 if I'm wrong...lol

Brown Dog

That's it, I'm calling my attorney and suing the living sh!t out of you Brown Dog.:D

Nope, he's a real Pilot for CAL on the 737 and I'm one on the 757, not possible for us to be staffed on two different aircraft.

Cheers

Brown Dog 04-16-2006 08:53 PM

757--

LOL. OK. Just yanking your chain. You know mine gets yanked all the time being a dog and all.....C-ya!

Brown Dog

Boneman 04-17-2006 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Brown Dog
757--

LOL. OK. Just yanking your chain. You know mine gets yanked all the time being a dog and all.....C-ya!

Brown Dog

I'm turning you in to the SPCA and PETA for impersonating a canine.

LAfrequentflyer 04-17-2006 05:08 PM

KB should stay. different opinions are a good thing...

-LA

SitBackRelax 04-17-2006 05:29 PM

So much for settling this privately.

I already said in a previous post that I hope he stays. But my opinion, which doesn't and shouldn't matter because this isn't a democracy, is that the administrators and KB should work it out themselves and one or the other or both should decide whether he sticks around. There's no way this should degenerate into a popularity contest.

HSLD 04-17-2006 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
...different opinions are a good thing...

Without a doubt, these boards would be boring if everyone was in agreement and held same opinions. A healthy discourse and dialog is important, and the diversity of opinions is strongly encouraged here.

However, that's not what this thread is about (by a long shot).

Eric Stratton 04-17-2006 07:24 PM

So can you say what was said that warrants a possible law suit?

HSLD 04-17-2006 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
So can you say what was said that warrants a possible law suit?

No, I'm not going to discuss details on the forum. Read post #85 and the forum rules and you can get an idea of what the issue is.

bman484 04-18-2006 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD
No, I'm not going to discuss details on the forum. Read post #85 and the forum rules and you can get an idea of what the issue is.


At least be consistant in your own argument. Not discussing the issue certainly doesn't involve giving hints! If you're not going to discuss, DON'T DISCUSS IT!


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