Delta losing Delta Shuttle to RJ's
12-09-2008, 07:02 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
To me the bigger question is, are they parking the MD88's or are they moving them elsewhere in the system? If they are moving them then it is not such a big deal!
12-09-2008, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
To me the bigger question is, are they parking the MD88's or are they moving them elsewhere in the system? If they are moving them then it is not such a big deal!
So it appears those -88s will rotate back into the mainline fleet. Lets hope that holds true.
12-09-2008, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
Yes, I believe all 70+ flying should stay at mainline. It's an issue a whole lot bigger than what happens to me or any other regional pilot flying them. I'd take my chances applying to fly it at the major...
Why not cap it at 50 like we did?
For once, I can say that we have something vastly superior to Delta in our contract.
Mind you, its probably the only thing that is better.
12-09-2008, 08:55 AM
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DAL and DALPA signed a LOA increasing the block hours on the MD-88 FOs in NYC. This was the result of losing part of the Shuttle flying. We now have increased 3 and 4 day trips. For the Jan bid, our ALV is 82:00. We are quite busy here.
So to answer all of the questions, so far, the flying has been picked up with "see America" trips.
-Fatty
So to answer all of the questions, so far, the flying has been picked up with "see America" trips.
-Fatty
12-09-2008, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
I flew with a check airmen in July (yea, they all claim to be "in the know"), but this is exacty what he said would happen. I'll paraphrase: "The loads on the shuttle are around 35%. The MD-88 is too big for that route and in order to keep hourly service, DAL needs a smaller jet. The shuttle -88s will return to the mainlin fleet to replace RJs on routes with more demand and /or routes losing RJ frequency but being replaced by mainline jets."
So it appears those -88s will rotate back into the mainline fleet. Lets hope that holds true.
So it appears those -88s will rotate back into the mainline fleet. Lets hope that holds true.
I think we will see alot of md80s and dc9s put on old rj routes. This will allow them to move the same amount of seats with less frequency.
12-09-2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Why not cap it at 50 like we did?
For once, I can say that we have something vastly superior to Delta in our contract.
Mind you, its probably the only thing that is better.
For once, I can say that we have something vastly superior to Delta in our contract.
Mind you, its probably the only thing that is better.
12-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
DAL and DALPA signed a LOA increasing the block hours on the MD-88 FOs in NYC. This was the result of losing part of the Shuttle flying. We now have increased 3 and 4 day trips. For the Jan bid, our ALV is 82:00. We are quite busy here.
So to answer all of the questions, so far, the flying has been picked up with "see America" trips.
-Fatty
So to answer all of the questions, so far, the flying has been picked up with "see America" trips.
-Fatty
12-09-2008, 11:55 AM
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I have noticed that our mainline loads weren't booked full as they were during the previous months -- especially the last flights of the night.
The Shuttle Trips are hit or miss. But more than likely, they are very undersold.
-Fatty
The Shuttle Trips are hit or miss. But more than likely, they are very undersold.
-Fatty
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