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Old 12-10-2008, 08:56 AM
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Bring back the 1049 and the L188... and lets not forget the hockey stick
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 View Post
So does that mean CAL mainline will be flying say an E170/75 or those types simply won't be flown at all since the scope prohibits them at express?
So far they haven't made an appearance and they probably won't for the foreseeable future.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:23 AM
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By Alejandro Lazo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 15, 2008; Page D0


Delta Air Lines plans to begin offering wireless Internet service tomorrow on board half of its shuttle flights between Washington's Reagan National, New York's LaGuardia and Boston's Logan airports.

But don't get too used to it. By the end of March, the planes that currently fly the Washington-New York route will be replaced with planes operated by contract carrier Shuttle America, which don't have Internet access.

By then, however, other Delta flights out of Washington will have WiFi. This week marks the first step of Delta's plan to let passengers on its 330-jet domestic fleet surf the Net by 2009.

Whole article: In First Step, Delta to Offer WiFi on Selected Flights - washingtonpost.com
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I think the Wifi is a good idea, but getting customers used to having it available then switching it is a bad move.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
DAL and DALPA signed a LOA increasing the block hours on the MD-88 FOs in NYC. This was the result of losing part of the Shuttle flying. We now have increased 3 and 4 day trips. For the Jan bid, our ALV is 82:00. We are quite busy here.

So to answer all of the questions, so far, the flying has been picked up with "see America" trips.

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The LOA concerning the ALV on the MD88 is system wide for all FOs regardless of base. It has nothing to do with block hours in NYC but rather due to system wide manning on for the MD88B. It allows the company to use a value of the ALV-5 hours for the January-March 2009 bid periods when calculating the TLV. In the case of the NYC M88B category, you guys are extroardinarily over manned since they have yet to displace anyone out of that category since the hiring stopped. In some regard it has helped you guys since it has really mitigated the amount of unstacking in the holiday months because you have a great deal of reserve coverage.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:52 AM
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December 15, 2008


On Tuesday, we will mark the launch of Gogo In-flight Internet service on board six of our aircraft. The Internet service initially will be available on five MD-88 aircraft flying Delta Shuttle routes between New York-LaGuardia and Boston-Logan and Washington-Reagan airports plus one Boeing 757 flying throughout Delta’s domestic system, with service spreading to other Delta routes as additional aircraft are introduced.
“In-flight Internet access is one of the most popular requests we receive from our customers. Delta’s launch of Gogo on board these first Delta aircraft demonstrates our continued commitment to providing our customers with the options they want and value when they travel with us,” said Tim Mapes, s.v.p.-Marketing. “Next year when Gogo is available on our entire domestic mainline fleet, our customers will have access to the most extensive Wi-Fi network in the sky, making the time they spend with us on board even more productive and entertaining.”
To celebrate the launch, passengers traveling on the Gogo-equipped MD-88 Shuttle aircraft can enjoy complimentary access to Gogo from Tuesday through Dec. 31.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:25 AM
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To celebrate the launch, passengers traveling on the Gogo-equipped MD-88 Shuttle aircraft can enjoy complimentary access to Gogo from Tuesday through Dec. 31.
...Then on Jan 1, 2009 we will cut the free internet along with 50% of your quality full service given by 3 experienced FA's on your 30 min flight and replace it with 2 FAs, (1 old fat crabby woman and 1 queeny power hungry gay guy) that will not serve anything ("...too short I can't get up." they will say as they file their nails in their JS)they will only yell at you to still down shut up and don't use the LAV. Oh wait don't forget the 21 yo pilot barely making $20,000/yr. Then in March we will get rid of 100% of your great service, at which time we also give you a complimentary kick in the nuts. So enjoy your free internet while it lasts...

PS. USAir you are about to get more pax on your DC Shuttle!
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:41 AM
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FAs, (1 old fat crabby woman and 1 queeny power hungry gay guy) that will not serve anything ("...too short I can't get up." they will say as they file their nails in their JS)they will only yell at you to still down shut up and don't use the LAV
...hmm, that may be a brilliant plan, actually. People will have no idea they're not on Delta!
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:13 PM
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...hmm, that may be a brilliant plan, actually. People will have no idea they're not on Delta!
You obviously have not been on the Delta shuttle lately then.

If you had, you would know that a service is required on that flight, and that a majority of those flights are currently staffed with flight attendants with less than 10 years at the company.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:24 PM
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So far they haven't made an appearance and they probably won't for the foreseeable future.
No Cal will just continue to add more 50 seater's as they have the superior MEC and Pilot group with the superior vision to allow this to happen. Like in the 90's when they were conned by management to allow only 25 RJ's to do Continental Express Flying. Oops, Look at how much capacity is done by RJ's for Cal now that used to be mainlines. Where did the CAL DC9's, old 737s, and Mad Dogs go? Oh Yeah I forgot that the union wasn't ALPA, but who voted? ALPA and Prater better have learned from this mistake which has seemed to repeat itself over and over again with just slightly larger regional aircraft every time and now it is a 75 seat issue. What's next?

The most hypocritical thing I ever heard while on a CAL Jump seat from the Scab Cal Captain. "Look there goes another one of those Dang 50 seat Barbie Jets stealing our flying!" So how did he Vote?

My opinion is: If it sucks and blows it should be done by mainline at mainline rates.

As most of your wife's say to you, "Size Doesn't Matter, it's your Paycheck I want." But as Greedy Airline Management negotiates, "It's your job I want, and size does matter.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:43 PM
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I just wish there was a law or FAA policy change requiring that any aircraft bearing the markings, name, image, or branding of a certificated air carrier has to be operated by pilots on the certificate of that air carrier. If you write Delta on the side of a Cessna 172, and sell that flight on your website connecting to an MD-80 flight, that damned Cessna has to be operated by a pilot on the Delta seniority list (or CAL or whoever else we're talking about). This would solve every scope argument on Earth, especially Midwest...and reshape the industry back to the glory days for the carriers that survived after the dust settled. The gov't has the power to do something like that, for God's sake they once regulated every single aspect of every airline's business...

This will never happen, but I guess a guy can dream...
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