Sorry super but I'm right on this.

You are correct that delta and nwa saw first hand how selling scope erodes EVERYTHING and yet you did NOTHING (from what I have seen) about it on your last contract. Even nwa allowed for the creation of compass. What did they think compass was for, growth? I hope you can tell me you guys reigned in some of the 50-76 airplanes in this past contract but from what I've been told and read it was mainly $$$. I've even heard that it allows for GROWTH of them if delta grows. I guess 255 (or so) 76 seaters just weren't enough.

To add insult to injury about how little nwa pilots cared about compass pilots they even gave them a worse contract than theirs and yours was a bankruptcy contract. Now that's insulting!!!

I hope you can prove me wrong.

Spares was an issue and managements' decision to not count them resulted in 2 extra large RJs at Comair, another 2 or 3 at ASA, and so on at the rest of the carriers....

Management could deem 200 airplanes in the desert as "spares" so the operating fleet appears to have been settled on for purposes of figuring out Section 1 limitations.

Even if the limits were violated, I do not have a high degree of confidence ALPA would raise the issue.

This bogus information that was refuted during arbitration hearings. The vast majority of airframes will be good into 2020 and beyond. The 2012 issue has to do with navigation performance - and your MD88's have the same issue. Expect GPS retrofits on both. Again the 2012 airframe inspection/heavy check time-out info is false.

No I wasn't offended. Thanks though.

No, you are right. Senior NWA went a long way to protect their pensions. Delta went an equal distance to protect as much of their contract as they could.

Neither of us had a gun to our head in the JPWA negotiations and we failed to take the DC9 replacements at Compass and Mesaba back. I wrote my Reps, cornered them in the Lounge and talked to them about scope. My FO Rep told me "scope does not matter" and "scope does not work."

Yes, NWA sold the DC9 flying to Compass and Mesaba. However, we failed to act when the opportunity existed to fix the error.

But with the fuel burn of a 757, the DC9 needs to be updated. The majority of our fleet (including the 757's) is getting old. Since the 757's arrived management has bought two generations of turboprops and three generations of RJ's. Most of the investment in aviation's future is not being made into the equipment we fly. That must change.

I am sure the airframes are good to 2020. However they require extra inspections under the aging aircraft rules. All airframes require major airframe inspections at various intervals. Delta management has stated they will not make the investment in the nines to extend them. I posted here a year ago that we would be down to 62 nines at year end. I was called all kinds of names for saying that. I was wrong. We ended the year with 58. Even premerger NWA planned on the airframes being out of service by 2012.
The MD-88's at Delta have all been retrofited and the AHERS systems replaced with INS and they have LNAV. They comply with all airways navigation requirements for the future. They will not however be able to shoot RNP approaches. The Majority of Delta's fleet does not have GPS including the 757/767 fleet. Even the ER's are only about 30 percent GPS. GPS is however not required for future airways Nav. The 767ER's are slowly getting a GPS retrofit as well as some of the 757's. Really nice to have the GPS birds in South America.

Really nice to have the GPS birds in South America.


Tell me about it. It makes life a lot easier!!

I didn't think DAL ALPA had any scope left.

Heyas,

Just checked with offical company documents. Sailings numbers, as expected, are not accurate.

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