Are you suggesting getting rid of the dc9 for E175's? If that's the case you do realize there is a huge pay difference.

I'm sure there is nothing preventing delta from ordering all the E175's or even C152's it wants. To capture that flying you just can't loosen scope. That way it forces management to keep the flying at delta (or any other major) The pilots decide who fly's the airplanes (scope) and management decides which airplanes to buy.

One other thing, why is it only compass that gets stapled and not the others Delta own?

I forgot if it was this thread, or another, but there was a question about the DC9 flying. I have the stats for 2007 handy:

NWA - Average daily utilization
DC9-30: 6.9
DC9-50: 7.6
757-200: 9.7
747: 14.0

Delta - Avg Daily Utilization:
CRJ-700: 10.5
CRJ-900: 11.1
MD88: 11.1
757-200: 13.2
767-400: 13.2
777-200: 17.8

As you can see, there was quite a bit more flying to be had if Delta ran the NWA fleet as hard as they do their own.

I think what forgot-to-bid is saying is E-175s at mainline for their mainline payrates. Doesn't the JPWA have an Embraer pay rate in it? Though it may be a little less than the -9, it is still way above what the rates are at Compass.

I believe the reason people only want Compass stapled is because it is represented by the MEC already, the pilots have a stronger flowthrough and flowback agreement (as opposed to Mesaba's where you guys can only flow back about a dozen pilots and they flow up at a much slower rate in a time of hiring), and the Compass fleet is tied to the mainline fleet (I can't remember how though).

Thats precisely why the NWA side is going to be thin if not short on staffing this summer as DAL increases the utilization of the aircraft on property. Thats how they are ramping up DC-9 flying without bringing back alot of dc-9s.

Was told from very credible source that stopped parking at 69 vs. 58 as planned and would increase utilization by 3 hrs/day to yield a 40% increase in block hours. ~200 additional pilots required, and this is all before we go to DAL trip rigs and ALVs

I had no idea that the fleet utilization at NWA was that low. With the advantages of a larger system even the Delta numbers should be able to be improved on. Pilot jobs go with block hours not airframes so any improvement is always great news. Q4 report comes out on Tuesday. It will be interesting to see how we did relative to other airlines. The summer of 10 however will give us a real idea how things came together. Hopefully we will outperform the industry at that point.

I'm not sure that other things might also effect Delta's utilization including the dynamics of the Delta route network and geography. Flights full of geriatric customers are full at 05:30 in the morning out of South Florida. At 22:30 ... not so much. The South seems to have an overall older demographic of people who move away from the cold the nanosecond they retire. Some aircraft flying the red-eye stuff literally go 24 hours a day, less whatever time it takes to turn the thing, flip the light switches and throw oil in the engines.

The stats on the numbers of line mechanics has is much higher than NWA's figures. Probably we will need more mechanics.

So then what would you guys propose happen to all the other DCI's flying 70-76 seat aircraft? Specifically Comair and Mesaba? Do you honestly see DL allowing "mainline" rates to be paid for only the 36 E175's that transition over to mainline while Mesaba and Comair pilots do the same flying under our much cheaper contracts?

Anyone know what the Mesaba CRJ900 flight hr /day avg is? It seems like these things (and the pilots) sit around a LOT more than the Avros used to. I'd bet even with the extra airframe we have (36 to 35) the Avros still had a higher avg in the last year they were around than we are running today with the 900's

Heyas,

I'm not going to put a fine point on it:

Intercom: This concludes the fee-for-departure portion of our business plan. Thank you for prostituting yourselves for Total Bastard Airlines. As we indicated at the start of the contract, we at Total Bastard Airlines are bitter about the career paths we have taken, and we do take them out on our code-share partners. We at Total Bastard Airlines realize that in your career plans you have a choice of many airlines, but we'd like to thank you for whoring yourselves out to the low paying skies of Total Bastard Airlines' regional partners.

TBA CEO: Okay, here we go - thanks for flying for us, buh-bye. Buh-bye! Thanks, now. Buh-bye.

TBA CFO: Buh-bye. Buh-bye. Buh-bye.

TBA CEO: Buh-bye. Buh-bye. Hey, you have a base here in MSP?

Regional #1 CEO: Uh..yes, actually, I -

TBA CEO: Buh-bye! Buh-bye.

Regional #2 CEO: Uh, excuse me, could you tell me if you're going to renew our contract?

TBA CEO: Buh-bye. I'm sorry, what part didn't you understand - the buh or the bye? Buh-bye.

Regional #3 CEO: Hi, I'd like to set up a fee-for-departure contract out of Detriot, and I was wondering if you'd be interested?

TBA CEO: Buh-bye.

Regional #3 CEO CEO : But if you just wait..

TBA CEO: Buh-bye.

TBA CEO: Buh-bye. Buh-bye. You hire too many low timers, and your wife dresses you funny.

Regional CEO #4: [ angry ] What did you say to me?!

TBA CEO: [ defensive ] What?! I said "Buh-bye!" I just said "Buh-bye" 40 times in a row, why would I say anything else, it doesn't make sense! Did I just say something without knowing it? No! Go! Buh-bye!

Regional #5 CEO: Excuse, me.. hello! You have been rude to me..

TBA CEO: Buh-bye!

Regional #5 CEO: ..the entire length of our codeshare

TBA CEO: Buh-bye!

Regional #5 CEO: No! I wanted more money for fuel costs!

TBA CEO: Buh-bye!

TBA Pilot's: Buh-bye!

...or something like that...if the Deltoids gain the 76 seaters and terminate EVERY SINGLE regional contract for 70 seaters, that'd just make my millenium.

Nu