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Old 01-28-2009, 04:17 AM
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What's the deal with AMR? The had the S80 mess last year, now this. Its like the're trying to lose revenue. Good thing they didn't need to use these rafts..


Life Raft Concerns Force American Airlines to Downsize Flights
By SCOTT FRIEDMAN

Updated 11:00 PM CST, Tue, Jan 27, 2009

In memo's sent to employees Tuesday, American Airlines said it will immediately cut the number of passengers on some flights, because of questions about the size of the life rafts on board those planes.

The planes involved are Boeing 767-300s, jets the airline uses mostly on international and transcontinental flights.

In a message sent to flight attendants, airline management said, "concerns about the capacity of our life rafts were identified," in what the company describes as a "self-audit."

The message goes on to say, "we are immediately restricting the total number of people on board these aircraft to 228. People includes customers, lap children, pilots, flight attendants, and jumpseat riders."

According to fleet information American provides on its Web site, the company's 767-300s seat 225 passengers. Additional crew members or children held on parent's laps could push the number of people on-board over that 225 on some flights.

The airline said it has notified the FAA that the life rafts on board those planes may not have met federal regulations. The company said it uncovered the issues during a routine check of compliance issues. An airline spokesman, Tim Smith, says those checks were not prompted by the US Airways water landing in New York, where passengers were seen using life rafts on a different type of aircraft, an Airbus A-320.

Smith said the size of the life rafts never posed a threat to passengers. He referred to a memo sent to company managers today which reads in part, " This issue of compliance never endangered passenger safety. We have always had more than enough safety equipment on our 767-300 aircraft to handle passengers and crews."

The airline points to the fact that the planes carry additional flotation devices including inflatable vests and seat cushions.

American says it is now working on a permanent solution, looking for a way to place an additional life raft on the planes affected. In the meantime, American will leave some seats empty on those flights. The airline said it does not believe it will need to re-book many passengers, because planes have been flying recently with lighter loads, as travel demand has declined along with the economy.


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Old 01-28-2009, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ERJ135 View Post
The message goes on to say, "we are immediately restricting the total number of people on board these aircraft to 228. People includes customers, lap children, pilots, flight attendants, and jumpseat riders."

According to fleet information American provides on its Web site, the company's 767-300s seat 225 passengers. Additional crew members or children held on parent's laps could push the number of people on-board over that 225 on some flights.
You need to read it in management speak. "There will be no non-revving or jumpseating on these airplanes. Oh, and if you have a lap child, time to buy them a ticket. Ka-ching. Now every seat will be generating revenue. No more freeloading employees allowed."
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It almost sounds like they're trying to be safe.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim View Post
It almost sounds like they're trying to be safe.
They're trying to avoid a fine or be sued. To them safety is about making the most money.
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good luck JS and non-reving, not like it was any easier.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:36 AM
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Yeah, this has nothing to do with safety. It has everything to do with disrupting QOL. They are trying to make a point to someone.

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
You need to read it in management speak. "There will be no non-revving or jumpseating on these airplanes. Oh, and if you have a lap child, time to buy them a ticket. Ka-ching. Now every seat will be generating revenue. No more freeloading employees allowed."
Just curious, how many seat do most airlines have in the 767-300(Delta,Hawaiian,Continental etc)?
AA has 30 B/C and 195 Coach. On an 8+hr flight, 2 B/C and 4 Coach blocked out for rest seats.
With a pax limit of 228(including lap children) and a crew of 11, this means
NO jumpseats on the 767-300 at AA.
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