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Old 05-03-2006 | 07:10 AM
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MEC Hotline Wednesday, May. 3rd.

This is a special NWA Master Executive Council (MEC) Hotline recorded on Wednesday, May 3, 2006.

This Hotline contains new information about the ratification of the Restructuring Tentative Agreement.
RESTRUCTURING TENTATIVE AGREEMENT RATIFIED (5/03/06)
Official results of the Restructuring Tentative Agreement ballot were received this morning. Northwest pilots voted to ratify the Restructuring Tentative Agreement by a margin of 63.42% (2888) voting in favor, vs. 36.58% (1666) voting against. 4554 out of 4801 eligible pilots voted (94.86%). The MEC will meet this afternoon via conference call to discuss the voting results. The Negotiating Committee will soon begin working with Northwest management on a Transition Agreement for implementation of the new contract. This contract does not become effective until all other Northwest labor groups’ 1113(c) cases are concluded. The Northwest flight attendants (PFAA) tentative agreement ballot concludes June 6 and the IAM’s 1113(c) hearing is scheduled to begin on May 15.
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Old 05-03-2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver
MEC Hotline Wednesday, May. 3rd.

This is a special NWA Master Executive Council (MEC) Hotline recorded on Wednesday, May 3, 2006.

This Hotline contains new information about the ratification of the Restructuring Tentative Agreement.
RESTRUCTURING TENTATIVE AGREEMENT RATIFIED (5/03/06)
Official results of the Restructuring Tentative Agreement ballot were received this morning. Northwest pilots voted to ratify the Restructuring Tentative Agreement by a margin of 63.42% (2888) voting in favor, vs. 36.58% (1666) voting against. 4554 out of 4801 eligible pilots voted (94.86%). The MEC will meet this afternoon via conference call to discuss the voting results. The Negotiating Committee will soon begin working with Northwest management on a Transition Agreement for implementation of the new contract. This contract does not become effective until all other Northwest labor groups’ 1113(c) cases are concluded. The Northwest flight attendants (PFAA) tentative agreement ballot concludes June 6 and the IAM’s 1113(c) hearing is scheduled to begin on May 15.

I seem to be lost, have you seen my compass?

In all honesty though, if this is good for nwa pilots, than congrats to them. I guess we will see.
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Old 05-03-2006 | 12:54 PM
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I seem to be lost, have you seen my compass?

In all honesty though, if this is good for nwa pilots, than congrats to them. I guess we will see.
It's only good if you don't fly the DC-9. More furloughs to come at NWA.
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Old 05-03-2006 | 04:45 PM
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Dougie Steal'in made over $3.7 million in salary and options in '05. I hope all the redboodkguys are happy with the vote, especially after NWA gives what's left of our pension to the government. It's gonna happen

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Old 05-04-2006 | 02:52 AM
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The NW pilots ratified the TA. I expect the Delta pilots will ratify their TA soon.

I have nothing against these pilots -- only sympathy and understanding. They really have no choice.

But for ALL pilots in our industry, these ratifications will form yet another step in the steady ratcheting-down of our salary and compensation. I've said it before and now I see even more reason to say it again: we're quickly getting to the point where experienced mainline captains will be earning in the 100-120K range as a typical maximum. I'm more convinced than ever that that's the natural market-driven equilibrium point for our top compensation scales. Sad and frustrating for the more senior pilots, I know -- but for the younger ones, we're going to have to take it or move into some other career field.
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Old 05-04-2006 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Seaber
...we're quickly getting to the point where experienced mainline captains will be earning in the 100-120K range as a typical maximum.
I don't see any of the following guys feeling the pain. Apparently all you need to do to keep your salary up is to become a union boss.

Top 10 International ALPA Leaders & Staff (by Salary)
Name Title Total Compensation
Duane Woerth President $ 550,729
Jalmer Johnson Geneal Manager $ 380,771
Jonatha Cohen Chief Counsel, D $ 370,957
Bruce York Director Represe $ 354,472
Spyrido Skiados Director, Commun $ 305,777
Kevin Barnhurst Director, Financ $ 297,681
Paul Hallisay Director Govern $ 293,753
Kenneth Cooper Asst Dir Represe $ 288,835
James Johnson Managing Attorne $ 285,249
William Roberts Asst Dir Represe $ 283,820

source; www.unionfacts.com

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Old 05-04-2006 | 04:43 AM
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Don't forget that Duane Woerth's limo driver gets $70,000 yr!
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Old 05-04-2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SWAcapt
I don't see any of the following guys feeling the pain. Apparently all you need to do to keep your salary up is to become a union boss.
WOW!!! There is something about this forum. I like it. I read it all the time. But why does no one on this forum understand that there are certain jobs that pay better than others, i.e. management!

It seems like SWAcapt is proposing socialism. Because he does not make more than this union boss, he feels that his boss should take a paycut.

Listen, if you are really that upset about how someone elses pay is higher than yours, go and enter their career field. Anyone can go out and get into the field of management. But you think you need a lot of luck to get a good pilot job, ha, your gonna need a lot more of it to get a good management job.
Why do pro-athletes make a lot of money? Because it is so hard to get to the big leagues. Why do CEO's make a lot of money, because it is so hard to make it there!
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Old 05-04-2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ryane946
WOW!!! There is something about this forum. I like it. I read it all the time. But why does no one on this forum understand that there are certain jobs that pay better than others, i.e. management!

It seems like SWAcapt is proposing socialism. Because he does not make more than this union boss, he feels that his boss should take a paycut.

Listen, if you are really that upset about how someone elses pay is higher than yours, go and enter their career field. Anyone can go out and get into the field of management. But you think you need a lot of luck to get a good pilot job, ha, your gonna need a lot more of it to get a good management job.
Why do pro-athletes make a lot of money? Because it is so hard to get to the big leagues. Why do CEO's make a lot of money, because it is so hard to make it there!
I just wanted to add a WOW to your comment.

If you make it to management and are doing a horrible job should you continue to make the big bucks?
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Old 05-04-2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ryane946
Because he does not make more than this union boss, he feels that his boss should take a paycut.
Maybe he really feels like I do - that Duane Woerth is simply not doing enough to warrant that salary.
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