Ok I understand now. Thanks for the lesson.

 

NYC 88B will have slots, there are only 67 in seats after this AE, but they still filled 99 NYC M88A slots.

 

Lets play a game:

You're on reserve, you see a 4-day trip in open time for the next day that you really want to do. There are 5 different 4-days btw, the one you want is awesome, the others suck bad. So its 6:55 in the am and the reserve availability list puts you at #8, so you don't have to volunteer for anything. But you really want that trip so if you reduce you're raw you are now #4.

Question A) Does scheduling look at the PCS requests first or assign the first trip that pops up to the #1 guy, the second trip to the #2, the 3 to the 3rd, and now here you are, well too bad the trip you wanted is gone, you get the 4th trip, and so on.

Question B) So you're watching the open time get assigned and you notice the trip you wanted was assigned away, if you pull your "reduce raw score" right then and there, are you back to the #8 position or does scheduling care?

Question C) Is this done by hand or by computer with the hand helping out? I got skipped for a trip once when I was #1 to be called, so I called them and they said it was because the #2 guy was only legal to do the trip I wanted while I was legal to do any of the other trips so thats why they did it. When I called and told the scheduler my employee number and before I said another word he was like, oh you, yeah we were talking about your request this morning and then he explained what happened. So to me, that means its 100% hand done, maybe not.

---
Sorry if this was off topic, I'm cleaning the garage and didn't look back. Just blind post. Now back to my garage, so excited because there is nothing more fun then standing outside and having sweat pour down your face. Thanks Georgia! When we opening a DEN base?!?!? I think thats the only time I could ever look at my wife and say "as the MAN of this house, we're moving! And I don't care about friends and family here..." Of course, we won't move, but I will have said it with authority which is a win in FTB's pitty book.

 

BTW, getting the Maddog Messenger in the email is kind of cool. It was loaded with stuff, including this tidbit:

Qualifying NYC and ATL pilots on the MD-90 is under serious discussion.

 

Here is how you find out. Look at the category list for this last AE. DTW320B has 213 or so slots. Then look at the SD3 report (on pilot resources page above category lists) and see what the company will need in December. If you look at that report, it states the number for DTW 320B as 261. That would be almost 50 people needed for that seat, and would probably go to newhires if not picked up during the next AE. Look at MSP MD88 and other categories too, and compare them with the SD3 report.

 

Satchip.


Satchip,


It is far more complicated than anyone has yet said. Companies and Unions learn from past strikes- and adjust accordingly, kind of like Spy vs. Spy. A DCI strike is also a different beast than a Spirit strike.


For one thing, Spirit Pilots want to apply pressure to Spirit management. So lets suppose other airlines do not up-gauge or go out of their way to accommodate Spirit passengers - what is the result. Thousands of ****ed off passenger (potential voters) start complaining to politicians. This will result in more political pressure on both the company and the union. Is this good or bad for the Spirit pilots? This also depends on which way the politicians in power lean - Greedy Fat Cat republicans who support companies or Naive and idealistic tax hungry democrats who will generally support labor (but not necessarily Pilots).

Now suppose other airlines up-gauge and generally accommodate the Spirit passengers - this might be good for the Spirit Pilots. In this case the company may be looking at a prolonged strike (without as much political pressure) and decide to cave in to the Pilots. On the other hand the strike can go on so long that the company folds ( won't be the first time) in which the Pilots are hosed and the Robber Baron management types are hero’s who are welcomed at other companies. Meanwhile the Pilots are now trying to get on as new-hires and start over.

Basically to the keyboard warriors who have been screaming "All pilots at XYZ airlines are Scabs" I humbly (OK arrogantly) but either way, in jest, suggest start playing less checkers and more chess. In any case all we on the line can do is follow the advice of the union, who hopefully have guys working on this full time.

Now regarding the hypotheticals of a DCI strike, let’s say DCI XX starts working toward a strike. 6 months before the strike DAL up-gauges all routes they cover and adds extra sections. They are not on strike yet, so no harm done, and so if they strike when the cooling off period begins DAL has got them by the balls. Not lets assume the union guys are no slouches either and say they hit their cooling off period and don't strike.

Well John Q. Public with a memory far less than 5 years has forgotten all about airline strikes prior to Spirit (5 years) and was burned. But Johnny with Spirit fresh in mind starts booking away from XX airlines and DAL with extra sections is hurting real bad (think Spy vs. Spy). SO in this case (strike fresh in the publics mind, the threat of a strike is actually better than a strike). So the months go by (threat of strike looming) and people start coming back to XX airlines, lured by cheap tickets and then Bamm!! out of the blue XYZ airlines goes on shrike and so on and so on.

My point is that this whole issue is extremely hard to get your hand on - lots of unintended consequences etc.

Scoop

 

Wow. I wish I could get some consistent answers. I've been told by multiple people that SC is & isn't duty.

 

FTB,

As you are learning we don't have much control of what trips we fly on reserve. In question A CS starts with the the pilot with the lowest RAW score, that's contractual, and your YS is not looked at until they get to you. Depending on the scheduler, when you are up and all other parameters are equal, they can look back at the trip you want and give it to you if it has not been acknowledged yet. No requirement for them to do that. Depends on how busy they are and if they are covering IROPS. They primarily work to cover all trips with whoever is legal.

In question B your new PCS status with no lowering of RAW score will not be pertinent again until the next PCS run. They don't see it immediately.

Just look forward to the fact that with new hires coming we will all move up to some extent.

 

+1 .....................

 

Thanks uncle Sam. It gives me great pause because cs is in a state of flux and there is no guarantee which way this would go.