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Old 06-13-2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
One more question...can you look anywhere in iCrew to confirm that you got credit for short call after the fact? I was just looking at that, and can't find any evidence that I was ever on short call.
Go to iCrew....under Schedule..click on "Schedule-Month". Select the month that you want to view. Then, click on "Display Reserve Call Status Information". It will show the number of SC for the bid period.
Old 06-13-2010 | 12:50 PM
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Plus, why wouldn't he be legal for the trip? SC isn't duty, right? I thought they just had to be able to look back 24 hours & find rest.
SC is duty. The 16-hour duty day starts from the beginning of SC. Anything he did that day would have had to block in by 2100. With the 30-minute debrief, that would put his duty day at 16 hours (0530 + 16 hours = 2130).

Now, it sounds like they removed his SC without telling him that he had been released from that SC duty. That's wrong. He should get his SC credit for that day.
Old 06-13-2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by upndsky
SC is duty. The 16-hour duty day starts from the beginning of SC. Anything he did that day would have had to block in by 2100. With the 30-minute debrief, that would put his duty day at 16 hours (0530 + 16 hours = 2130).

Now, it sounds like they removed his SC without telling him that he had been released from that SC duty. That's wrong. He should get his SC credit for that day.
Exactly correct.
Old 06-13-2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I agree with you Satch, but, how about keeping the posts as a reminder. And then adding an apology post?

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Or how about for the sake of the Falcon Air pilots calling in sick and refusing to fly struck work for Spirit, how about we move them up the respect totem poll and then figure out why, as slow put it, "a keyboard warrior" from within the DAL pilot group (mvndc10) wants to label all Falcon Air pilots scabs...
How did I get drug into this?
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Thanks JDMJ.

So the 88 that was originally scheduled goes, but an 88 cannot replace the Pinnacle CRJ900 that goes after the 88, right?

Now what if 757s start replacing 88s and 738s from ATL-RIC and ATL-ORF, is that upguaging? Because its obvious, if PHF is in between the two then you know what they're doing is replacing the lost ASA flights to PHF which is in between RIC and ORF.

Not saying PHF is that important, just the example I know best.
How about they are our routes and our passengers in the first place so we should be able to do what we want with them. Is union solidarity a suicide pact? If a DCI carrier went on strike and stranded thousands of our pax, who would get the blame? ASA or Delta? Who's bottom line would it impact? Not sure I really feel this way, just food for thought. Remember I am a union rookie. I do thin there would be a difference if it was a WO DCI.
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
How about they are our routes and our passengers in the first place so we should be able to do what we want with them. Is union solidarity a suicide pact? If a DCI carrier went on strike and stranded thousands of our pax, who would get the blame? ASA or Delta? Who's bottom line would it impact? Not sure I really feel this way, just food for thought. Remember I am a union rookie. I do thin there would be a difference if it was a WO DCI.
Careful Satch. Remember the first rule of holes.

Don't confuse our dislike of outsourcing with our respect for a union brother's picket line.
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
BTW, was that Layla or not. If it wasn't, I'll pull the picture down. I don't want people getting confused.
I haven't a clue.
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Careful Satch. Remember the first rule of holes.

Don't confuse our dislike of outsourcing with our respect for a union brother's picket line.
That is one of the reasons for this intellectual exercise. I don't know the why's and wherefores of unions and struck work. I'm not dumb enough, quiet FTB, to go against what my union says, but how deep does our obligation to solidarity go? If the answer is to the bitter end the I'm with ya.
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
but how deep does our obligation to solidarity go? If the answer is to the bitter end the I'm with ya.

That's exactly where it goes. You may not like what the regional guy represents as to outsourcing, but when they're on the picket like, you cover their six.
Old 06-13-2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Thanks JDMJ.

So the 88 that was originally scheduled goes, but an 88 cannot replace the Pinnacle CRJ900 that goes after the 88, right?

Now what if 757s start replacing 88s and 738s from ATL-RIC and ATL-ORF, is that upguaging? Because its obvious, if PHF is in between the two then you know what they're doing is replacing the lost ASA flights to PHF which is in between RIC and ORF.

Not saying PHF is that important, just the example I know best.
During the Comair strike, the Delta strike center was in full operation because we were gearing up for our own potential strike. The Comair strike folks had not adequately prepared for strike tracking, so we took over the tracking function for them. We had every flight schedule loaded electronically and we tracked every flight over the entire Comair route network to ensure that there was no up-gauging or extra sections. We found a handful of attempts on the first few days and then it stopped. Several Delta crews got up and left the cockpit to ensure that the flight would not operate.
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