Jumpseating, TSA, and CASS
02-14-2009 | 11:07 AM
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Jumpseating, TSA, and CASS
I will be jumpseating tomorrow; first time in almost a year, and it will most certainly all be off-line; at least two legs, and possibly three. Over the last 7+ years, the procedure has swung back-and-forth, and varied airport-to-airport, but my question:
At the originating airport, can I start at security/TSA with badge and credentials, or do I have to go to the ticket-counter first and get a jumpseat form?
As I stated above, I've seen it both ways over the years; just not sure what the consensus is for current-practice.
If any of you are working PNS-ATL or IAH, and then to SFO/OAK, I may see you tomorrow.
At the originating airport, can I start at security/TSA with badge and credentials, or do I have to go to the ticket-counter first and get a jumpseat form?
As I stated above, I've seen it both ways over the years; just not sure what the consensus is for current-practice.
If any of you are working PNS-ATL or IAH, and then to SFO/OAK, I may see you tomorrow.
02-14-2009 | 11:12 AM
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95% of the airport TSA agents will let you through security with just your airline I.D. in or out of uniform. The other 5% will tell you to go back to the ticket counter and get a security pass. Just make sure to tell the TSA that you are jumpseating. I jumpseat out of SFO a lot and I've never had a problem with them letting me through security. I can't vouch for PNS, though!
02-14-2009 | 12:54 PM
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Tha actual rule is that if your airline serves the airport in question you can procede through the checkpoint without a ticket or paper pass. If not you are required to get some form of boarding pass. Some TSA officials have decided to impose their own rules at some airports requiring all pilots to have paperwork. ALPA has stopped this at most airports so the answer should be if your airline serves the airport you don't need to stop at the ticket counter.
02-14-2009 | 01:22 PM
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Ya... it was pretty funny. Yesterday I was commuting out of ATL. I showed TSA my Delta crew I.D. The TSA agent asked if I have a boarding pass!! Last time I checked Delta serves ATL. They do definitely make up their own rules!
02-14-2009 | 02:33 PM
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Thanks
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That's kind of what I thought, and what I'm up against when I start out.
I hate showing up at 5:20 AM to get a pass at the counter, but it beats standing in the TSA line for 30 minutes, and being told you have to spend a new hour in line at the ticket counter (and missing the first two flights I wanted to be on).
That's kind of what I thought, and what I'm up against when I start out.
I hate showing up at 5:20 AM to get a pass at the counter, but it beats standing in the TSA line for 30 minutes, and being told you have to spend a new hour in line at the ticket counter (and missing the first two flights I wanted to be on).
02-14-2009 | 04:29 PM
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One thing you may want to consider is whether or not you are in CASS. I don't know what your status with your airline is, but if you're not qualified and current, I know that my airline pulls you out of CASS (in fact, taking mil leave for a drill weekend causes them to yank me out of CASS...ridiculous...but I digress). If you're going to travel offline, you may run into an issue where the gate agents try to run you in CASS, regardless of whether or not you intend to sit in the back (and have a reciprocal JS agreement). If they can't find you, expect a hassle trying to get on the flight.
I don't know if this will happen, but I know it has for me when trying to get home (OAL JS) to attend drill weekend and not showing up in CASS. Good luck.
I don't know if this will happen, but I know it has for me when trying to get home (OAL JS) to attend drill weekend and not showing up in CASS. Good luck.
02-14-2009 | 04:56 PM
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Mil-Leave
I'm on Mil-Leave, and it worked last time...UAL says it is supposed to work while we're on leave. But, I've seen it 3 years ago where it yanked me out, when I was actually not on mil. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
02-15-2009 | 07:03 PM
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Discussing jumpseat security issues on a public forum is not a good practice.
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