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Old 03-10-2009 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BeenThere
Eastern was a sick puppy from years and years of mismanagement and failure to respond to changing market condition. Then along came Frank Lorenzo, which is like gangrene festering in an open wound. He destroyerd everything he touched. Never forget his name, or his spawn such as Jonathan Orenstein still running airlines as we speak.

Amen........

I'm sure there's got to be a special kind of hell for people like them.
At least one hopes!.
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Old 03-10-2009 | 11:24 AM
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I have to say though that I really like that old Eastern paint scheme. Timeless.
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Old 03-10-2009 | 11:53 AM
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Eastern, Pan Am, TWA all those who have gone by the wayside had operated in a regulated enviroment, unfortunately they did not change or change fast enough for deregulation. This would be the time to buy aircraft, set up gate space and all the contracts needed. They would be able to just about write their own terms, all you have to do is look around and count the unused gates. After all southwest and fedex where set up in a recession period.

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Old 03-10-2009 | 12:48 PM
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Hell Southwest was started during the ORIGINAL oil crisis and economic woes of the early to mid 70's.....
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Old 03-10-2009 | 05:01 PM
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You guys -unemployed and hercdriver- are so right.
Both situations happened because of the same set circumstances -crazy oil prices, lack of some kind of regulation, crappy economy amongst others,-.
Does that remind you of something?.
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Old 03-10-2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by unemployedagain
This would be the time to buy aircraft, set up gate space and all the contracts needed. They would be able to just about write their own terms, all you have to do is look around and count the unused gates. After all southwest and fedex where set up in a recession period.
There is one big difference between then and now. That is the credit markets. Back then, there was no shortage of people willing to invest. JMPO, but I think that it will be awhile before you see any large investors willing to dump tons of cash in a start up. There is only one Branson, and he's kind of occupied with another start up right now.
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Old 03-10-2009 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
There is one big difference between then and now. That is the credit markets. Back then, there was no shortage of people willing to invest. JMPO, but I think that it will be awhile before you see any large investors willing to dump tons of cash in a start up. There is only one Branson, and he's kind of occupied with another start up right now.
Perhaps, I was too young to remember. There are others, he just likes to sit in the limelight. A startup would also have the benefit of not having to carry past debt forward. IMO there will be few risk/reward situations in the future. These are just the types that make millionares, how many have been produced at Southwest?
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