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New Delta capacity cuts
This sorta sounds like another ER displacement or even worse....
Delta Responding to Worsening Global Economy: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance Slinky :eek: |
Please stop. You're scaring the women, children, animals, and those near the bottom of the list.
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ACL??? Furloughs??? I can't see how there wouldn't be.:( Please save me before I jump to conclusions. :(
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I don't know why anyone would be concerned about furloughs at DAL. The DAL (& NWA) pilots have "furlough protection." Anderson and Steenlan are honorable guys. They are always concerned about the well-being of their pilots, and will always follow the contract provisions to the letter of the law.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 575703)
ACL??? Furloughs??? I can't see how there wouldn't be.:( Please save me before I jump to conclusions. :(
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Originally Posted by Phlying Phallus
(Post 575710)
I don't know why anyone would be concerned about furloughs at DAL. The DAL (& NWA) pilots have "furlough protection." Anderson and Steenlan are honorable guys. They are always concerned about the well-being of their pilots, and will always follow the contract provisions to the letter of the law.
[/sarcasm] Your username fits you well. I guess you're bitter at AA. You can keep that over there with your APA buddies. Maybe you should ask for 60%. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Fly4hire
(Post 575715)
Shift to domestic yields which are doing better than expected.....pull down will be temporary....
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Stand by to see more how this is distributed. Fall will precede SOC. Atlantic pull down suggests Delta, Pacific suggests Northwest. Doing anything out of seniority order will be a mess.
Also, the most recent Delta displacement was pretty deep. Was any of the fall pull back already accounted for? I'm guessing this is additional, but as of Tuesday, the Delta side was "happy" with their staffing after the last bid. There are parts of this puzzle still needed in order to jump the correct direction on conclusions. At least on the Delta side, it seems they like to paint airplanes and park them in VCV. Hope the 747 repaint wasn't the first step in preparing them for storage. Looking at the numbers my SWAG would be they would be phased out of Asia in favor of something with lower seat mile costs. Flights like the service to MNL are full, but Japan Airlines pulled out all together. I'm guessing the 767 would be a sure fire money maker in that market. Increasing connectivity could improve the Asian operation as well. More flights a day with smaller aircraft could increase staffing requirements, better serve passengers and make more money. There are a lot of 4 to 6 hour connections in NRT that passengers would like to reduce, but when you see the international travel banks (I think there are only two) you understand why it is that way. The other problem Delta has in Asia is the restrictions on US Transit Visa issuance. Many Asians can not travel on US Airlines because they can not get Visas from our screwed up Homeland Security Department and now the rules require a Visa even if a passenger walks across the concourse from one connecting flight to the other without ever stepping out of the secured area. It is a stupid law and the reason why many other flag airlines can get another couple hundred dollars a ticket, to avoid the hassle of the Transit Visa. The Canadian flag carriers do well by exploiting the hassle factor of flying through a US hub. |
Like I said last week there is some promising numbers for the mid 2010 timeframe. That MIGHT mitigate furloughs. They stated as late as last week that there were no plans for furloughs.
That said a 10% capacity pull down in the international arena equates to about 15% if it was domestic. With the use of augmented crews international pull down hits the pilot and flight attendant ranks harder. More bodies with out flights. It equates to about an 8% reduction if it was domestic. Personally, I do not see how we will not furlough 200-300. It just makes sense. They were looking at Sept numbers to be the determining factor. I guess they determined that they warranted a deep cut. The only bright lights is that there is a lot of metal showing up, and we need bodies to fill em. Those 777's will need pilots, as will the "narrow body" lift that they are looking at. It makes furloughing a hard variable to determine. |
I think this is only the tip of the iceberg to come. Companies are still downsizing. Until this stops, we will not see any growth in our industry.
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