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acl65pilot 03-10-2009 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 575903)
There are other ways to do capacity cuts. Aircraft will start flying through each others' markets starting next month.

For example:
747-400 (403 seats) replaced by a 767 in Asia (217 to 285 seats)
757-ER back fills the 767
E175, 737, MD88, MD90 and DC9 Back Fill for 757's
CRJ, ERJ backfill for DC9 and MD88

Correct. It will not just be flights but gauge. I am working on getting those numbers and total number of flights that will be axed. Also working on manning block hr reductions. FWIW, I do not think they have been crunched yet.

Ralphie 03-10-2009 10:40 AM

all they need to do is open up the SIL program with various options as to what the pay/benefits will be. Every mil guy I know would be all over it, even without benefits. I know, don't give them any ideas, but it would seem if a large percentage of the union wanted this something could be done.

Bucking Bar 03-10-2009 10:45 AM

Today the market is up and the CFO gave many reasons for optimism in his briefing. Part of being a leader will be moving back into the market as demand returns.

The 747's are very expensive jets. In this market a 777 or 'Bus might make more sense.

Today they said they would be anxious to get the 787 if it was flying today. I actually agree with that statement, the airplane is the perfect size for right now (and the 767-300 with winglets is really close to that size but can't go nearly as far).

Deliveries coming:
  • 6 777 2009
  • 2 777 2010
  • "handful" of regional jets

reddog25 03-10-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 575910)
The 747's are very expensive jets. In this market a 777 or 'Bus might make more sense.

Not really expensive if you fill up with 50,000 lbs of cargo and 403 passengers...no???:cool:

syd111 03-10-2009 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 575874)
They are, we will recover a lot quicker than the others. If this continues I see UAUA, AMR, or LLC in 11 or 7 by this fall.

Nice to know that a guy like acl always seems to hope to move up by some other folks going down.

acl65pilot 03-10-2009 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 575930)
Nice to know that a guy like acl always seems to hope to move up by some other folks going down.


No genius, it is about liquidity and they are having issues with both of these companies. It is not about be stepping on someone else's back to get ahead.

Ferd149 03-10-2009 11:21 AM

Bucking/ACL

Your dead on about the gauge. IMO why the old NWA did better on the Asia rim than United did was we took the 757 out there to run "thin" routes and beach resorts. Then, the A330s for all but MSP and DTW to NRT. Off the top of my head, the only whale trip south is NRT & Nagoa to MNL (someone correct this). The transitions to other jets is taking place now, and we are waiting for 767s to come out now. IE, NRT to BNK is now a 757 vs an A330 so we need a 767 there for sure. So, we'll see......I like the way we think!

I know it is spring break and I was doing spring break places, but I was full full full every leg between MSP and Ft Myers, Tampa and Phoenix.

Ferd

Mesabah 03-10-2009 11:21 AM

If any of you guys get furloughed will you choose to flow back to compass, or to mesaba?

syd111 03-10-2009 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 575939)
No genius, it is about liquidity and they are having issues with both of these companies. It is not about be stepping on someone else's back to get ahead.

Okay genius, be careful what you hope for.

acl65pilot 03-10-2009 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 575941)
If any of you guys get furloughed will you choose to flow back to compass, or to mesaba?

Probably, though unlikely.


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