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acl65pilot 04-23-2009 12:19 PM

DALPA does have the company over the barrel with these DCI contracts. DAL pays no matter what. No one knows about it though. Reading this makes you and others realize that if we ever came to a point where a strike was authorized and necessary, there are some major financial disadvantages for the company not to settle asap!

slowplay 04-23-2009 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 600134)
EV has 17 years left of their contract. That is correct 17 years.

As you've reviewed this contract, can you tell everyone how many aircraft EV has under contract at the 17 year point?

It's in the annual report if you can't find it...

NWA320pilot 04-23-2009 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 600133)
Ok so can the second flight actually be two flights?
i.e. DFW to JFK,Delta only has one flight at 0815 in the morning operated by Comair and you don't get on that one then your next option is DFW-ATL-JFK(LGA)? Would this qualify?

(Usually doing the AA thing to LGA that they do every hour and half)

Yes that would qualify.

acl65pilot 04-23-2009 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 600216)
As you've reviewed this contract, can you tell everyone how many aircraft EV has under contract at the 17 year point?

It's in the annual report if you can't find it...

It is my understanding that, that figure is part of exhibit A. Per this document it is whited out.

Per the 10K it is 16 in 2020. This can be amended per the options outlined in this agreement.

H46Bubba 04-23-2009 01:14 PM

Man, I'm really going to miss those S-2 days when ever I'm in a jam!:(

slowplay 04-23-2009 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 600227)
It is my understanding that, that figure is part of exhibit A. Per this document is is whited out.


Look at page F37 of the annual report. In 2020 ASA is only contracted to have 16 aircraft in operation for Delta. They currently have 141.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 600227)
Don't be smug you give the answer away. It is apparent that you think I am a management plant, which I am not.

Not smug. Just pointing out that again you put out "disunifying" and misleading info. I note that you haven't retracted any of your statements regarding your fellow pilots and pass benefits...

Why?

yeah, I know, you're not a management plant.:D

sailingfun 04-23-2009 01:35 PM

All the *****ing about the pass policy and that the sky is falling. The new policy is out and this forum was 100 percent wrong on the changes.

acl65pilot 04-23-2009 01:38 PM

ASA 141 141 16 2020


SkyWest Airlines 80 82 37 2020


ASA/SkyWest Airlines(1) 12 12 12 2012


Chautauqua 24 24 24 2016


Freedom (ERJ-145 aircraft)(2) 28 28 22 2012


Shuttle America 16 16 16 2019


Pinnacle (CRJ-900 aircraft) 18 16 16 2019


Pinnacle (CRJ-200 aircraft) 124 124 124 2017


Total 443 443 267


First Line is 12/08 Second 12/09 and third is at the end of the agreement

acl65pilot 04-23-2009 01:41 PM

Once again Slowplay you misread what I said. My point was that DALPA does not determine pass privilege policy. DAL management does.

As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.

It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.

sailingfun 04-23-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 600252)
Once again Sailing you misread what I said. My point was that DALPA does not determine pass privilege policy. DAL management does.

As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.

It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.


I have no idea what you are talking about. I made a simple post about the new policy now being out and that the forum was wrong about the changes. Never mentioned you or anything you posted.


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