:eek:
Well, they can't go far with that as very few carriers pay less!

Even after a "raise", they still pay F.O's less than the VA F.O's. :eek:

And, that "contract" is 9 years in the making Vs VA's 1 year.

That's "collaboration" at work for ya! :rolleyes:



JJ

I love how the company pulls the senority list/ac/pay switcheroo and expects nobody to figure the game out. Funny how you can do a crewmember search on these E90 CA's and it says they're an A320 CA.... hmmmm I wonder why that is.. Maybe it's because they're PAID as a bus CA!

If you are so unhappy about working for a company that makes money, then there is always the option of leaving and hiring on with - let's see, with who? There has to be some airline out there which is so much better, does everything right and pays so much more and is in fact hiring RJ trash like you.

any body hear about the pay raise in June rumor?

Pay raise? Why would jb management do that? They have been playing these games for years to drag it out as long as possible. They could say pay raises for the next 10 years and guys would be running around saying "hey pay raises are coming." It is a classic management tactic used to delay unionization, not hard to figure out.

Gents, you're peeing upwind and here's why:

1) Individual airline pilots cannot negotiate their own rates. They're set for you. With corporate pilots, it can be a different ball game.

2) You can be the world's best pilot. You can be typed rated in A320 with 10,000 hours in the left seat. In the U.S., if you're starting fresh at an A-320 operator, that nets you 25-30k a year and to the right seat you go - courtesy of seniority system based pay.

3) No matter what, you'll always have someone else willing to work for wages you think are inadequate and they'll undercut you. So many proud profession defenders on these boards, so few voluntary resignations... it's that pesky supply-and-demand curve that just won't switch to pilots' favor.

Solutions are relatively easy, but require departure from typical U.S. airline pilot mentality.

Flame away...

wow, thanks for the great insight. really some groundbreaking stuff there.

after reading all this, i feel kind of crappy that i booked a flight on blue next week. any of you guys flying 667 out of KBUF on the 13th??