SkyHigh,

Despite some of my posts and bantering, I do think that you bring some balance to the boards that is worthwhile. However it is statements like these that ailenate your cause and diminish your stance as far as I'm concerned.

How can you make the statement that he MUST have left something of value behind, without knowing that particular individuals circumstance? By your arguements, everybody who works in this industry sacrifices family or life or money or whatever. That arguement could be made for any career path, and it's not fair to use a blanket statement to argue against a single individual.

You make the assumption that pilots who do overseas work must sacrifice their patriotism or family or whatever. Why's that? Many pilots I know work overseas. Most of them take their families. Those that do move families, do so as a GROUP DECISION. I spent time overseas as a kid, and am a better person for it. I don't consider myself screwed up, or that my family sacrificed because of it- quite the contrary... I think that we are better people because of it.

Has my family made sacrifices for my career? Sure. But in the same period of time, I've made sacrifices for my family. It's a two way street, and we (as a whole) are much more happy because of it.

Oh, and for the record not every pilot job out there kills the family because of travel away and missed anniversaries or endless nights in crappy hotel rooms. I for one am home in the house more than my wife, and she works an office job.... (and not because she has to... because she wants to.)

I come from a Pan Am family...As a kid I remember holidays with Pan Am, Eastern, and National people around my parents house...I remember the stories that were told and can't count how many shoulders I rode on as a kid out to a flight line to see the new "jet" at the time...All before TSA...Maybe that's the good 'ol days...Before TSA...lol...But I can also add I'm very happy now too...Left seat job on a widebody...Great business ventures working for me...Great family life....I guess I'm lucky...Very very lucky...Because I can't spell worth a dang, and from what I've seen posted I should be dig'n ditches with my grammer skills...lol

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Sky ahh Sky , now lets take that part about "sell out your own country" lets see now --me i was born and grew up in a british colony in south america, went to "the land of the free" to learn 2 fly (burnside-ott), got a job in Trinidad+Tobago--GO SOCA WARRIORS--flew for BWEE for 30 years, (by the way my parents were descendants of Irish rebels banished to Barbados) then decided Air Jamaica payed much better so went over to Jam and flew for them for 8 years, got my "green card" LEGALLY and came up to help out u yanks:p heh heh, yes where were we oh yeah my country, --which is?? i don know take yur pick --Ireland?-Barbados? Guyana? Trinidad?--or (for the last year) "the land of the free" although seeing the "storm troopers" of the TSA/CUSTOMS/INS in action these days i`m beginning to wonder if i made a wise choice:(

ps i don`t want a bunch of unwashed lol swimming in my pool anyhow.

You (and all the rest of us) have our muslim and Latino buddies to thank for these petty inconveniences...

Cuts both ways.;)

Josh
 

Josh,

I know that at first glance you have no use for me, but I hope to be winning you over as a friend.

Skyhigh

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this may come as a huge relavation to u but not everyone is drooling to be a member of "the land of the free" .I for one am here because i married a beautiful american lady, who blessed me with 2 beautiful "american" daughters and to them this is home. besides i`ll have to assume ur desendants either came over on the "mayflower" or were here when that bunch landed--because surely you would not be making comments like that if u 2 were an "immigrant";)

No I'll feelings, and I'll definately buy the beer if we ever have the chance for one in person. I do actually understand your point of view because at some point or another, we are going to go through some of those stages of thought. I've been there myself (furloughed, watched my employer go Tango Uniform, applied at other regionals for less than unemployment wages). But then I realized that there are greener pastures out there, and I found them.

And as long as you remain open minded about others opinions and their viewpoints on the industry, I think that you do bring some valid points to the table. It's just the manner that you bring them that can be irritating. :D

You're right my company sold me out, thanks to the policies of my government to place big business interests ahead of the American worker. The leveraged buyout artists and Wall Street tycoons have been enabled by pro business policies at the expense of the worker for too long.

How dare you say that I traded my home for personal gain :mad: As Flyer Josh said, you don't know me and you certainly aren't qualifed to pass judgement on me.

I left my country temporarily for the betterment of myself and my family. There is no price to pay in the end for that. I am rewarded everyday in more ways than one. I have fantastic group of friends, a loving wife, and a wonderful son. I've been able to reach and exceed my career goals before the age of 40. I'll gladly stay where I am as long as it continues to be a rewarding experience. That may be for 5 more years or it may be for 20.


Typhoonpilot

I'm not an immigrant, my forebears were of course, but that was a long time ago. You are the one who regurgitated the Storm Trooper crap. I merely pointed out to whom we are beholden for the necessary hassles we now experience. Furthermore, we both digress...your immigration to the U.S. for whatever reason, has nothing to do with gist of this thread, nor does my response.

oh i`m sorry:o i didn`t realise that "the gist" of this thread was about "our muslim and latino buddies":rolleyes: