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captjns 05-21-2009 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 614688)
Diet Coke and wasser mit gas is much cheaper than beer in Europe.

San Miguel Beer and wine is cheaper than water in some parts of Spain.:D

acl65pilot 05-21-2009 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 614688)
That is why I am firmly in the camp of just don't drink, especially on a trip. I saved my captains a lot of money that first year by not drinking. Diet Coke and wasser mit gas is much cheaper than beer in Europe.


It works. There is nothing wrong if you are responsible, but I agree.

Three Green 05-21-2009 07:26 PM

AS i recall, the NWA airline crew that got busted back in the day all got canned except the capt. His excuse was he was an alcoholic and qualified under the American's With Disabilities Act. Can't this capt claim the same thing no?

Reggie Dunlop 05-21-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 614548)
They told us in indoc that the point of no return was the threshold of the boarding door. Cross that and you are now in violation of the law.

That is not something you should have to tell an airline pilot in indoc.

BoredwLife 05-21-2009 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Three Green (Post 615041)
AS i recall, the NWA airline crew that got busted back in the day all got canned except the capt. His excuse was he was an alcoholic and qualified under the American's With Disabilities Act. Can't this capt claim the same thing no?

Nope. The Capt was fired too. He also spent close to three years in federal prision before being pardonded by President Clinton. He then went about getting all his certs back, since they had been revoked. If I remember correctly he wrote the CEO and explained his entire family history and what had caused him to become an alcoholic in the first place and added something about always wanting to fly the 74. The CEO brought him back on for something like 9 months prior to his 60th birthday. How long he was brought back on for is the only thing I can't remember from when I heard him speak.

bcrosier 05-21-2009 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 614688)
That is why I am firmly in the camp of just don't drink, especially on a trip. I saved my captains a lot of money that first year by not drinking. Diet Coke and wasser mit gas is much cheaper than beer in Europe.

I don't know what parts of Europe you're flying in, but most places I go a pint of beer is about half what 8oz. of Coke is. Vasser is usually close to parity.

III Corps 05-22-2009 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 615117)
Nope. The Capt was fired too. .

Lyle Prouse. Met him in ORD jumpseating home to ATL.

His story.. Lyle Prouse

A good ending to a bad start.

SWAcapt 05-22-2009 06:27 AM

Thanks for the link. Awesome story!

Skyone 05-22-2009 02:09 PM

Well, in this part of the world, one of our pilots just got canned for drinking within the 12 hour rule on a layover. How was he found out? A company captain on another trip dropped a call back to the company. Didn't tell the guy to "close shop". Just called the company. Next morning they hit him with the test at pickup time. Was over the limit by a bit. Said they would test him at the airport and he passed-too late, even though officially duty doesn't start until one hour before departure. Company says in uniform at pickup is start of duty.

You guys be very careful when you are overseas, especially at LHR. They are watching and looking and love to nail a US pilot.

acl65pilot 05-22-2009 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Three Green (Post 615041)
AS i recall, the NWA airline crew that got busted back in the day all got canned except the capt. His excuse was he was an alcoholic and qualified under the American's With Disabilities Act. Can't this capt claim the same thing no?

Urban legend. The story is a lot different.

He paid his debt to society and only after a great length of time was offered his job back where he could retire as a pilot for NWA. He is on a public speaking circuit. Go hear his story. It is a good one to hear.

Lyle is a great guy and has insight for all of us. He lives in the ATL area.


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