Are u sure???

I would have bet big time they kept there seat. I J/Seated one time with a morris CA. in the mid 90's that said he did.

I'm sure and if your still willing to bet big time, I'm all in.

Bake

Don't do it Commando.

I was in a SW cockpit commuting to work on th 13th, along with 3 SW pilots and I was shocked at what they had to say. I understood fully what they desired for the seniority list integration, but when they stated <deleted>F9 if you think you're getting anything other than a staple", I was shocked.

I love the airline and hope to fly an orange plane someday, but was rather turned off by this. Everyone has their 10%...as they say.

Ok. I did.

JBLU 1Q/09 CASM 8.88
AAI 1Q/09 CASM 9.22
LUV 1Q/09 CASM 9.76

SWA also had the lowest % change in CASM decrease of all the LCC's.

Not a SWA guy, but, I too hope they don't have to go through what most have experienced for the past 10 years.

But, the SWA mgt mindset is different than the industry std mgt mindset. Every SWA flight I've been on is staffed by SWA folks and they are all in a good mood. Still. Economy in the dumper and everybody's loving life.
Sure can't say the same for the folks with AA, Delta (especially TheNewDelta), and CAL. (Haven't flown UAL recently but I hear nothing but horror stories from the Bro's working there)

SWA doesn't have RJs flying long haul routes just to reduce their costs.

SWA Mgt certainly isn't infallible, but, I'd rather bet on them than any other airline Mgt out there.
I look at the balance sheet and SWA is the only pax carrier in the black, huge.

FWIW
Net Tangible Assets
SWA 5.1M
RJET 305k

JBLU 1.5M
Alaska 657k
CAL 560k
US Air 868
AMR 4M
UAL 5M
DAL 13.6M

can't blame them a for protecting their own can you? SWA didn't owe a bankrupt company anything and we all know that another company would have done the same thing. The bashing of the highest paid pilots in the industry, who have raised the bar over and over is just plain ridiculous. The big loser here was F9 and unfortunately rah will dismantle them slowly but surely.

Raised the bar over and over?

I submit that the dismantling will be sure, but it will be anything but slow. :eek:

Absent the few flamers that continue on this board, if you want to look a bit deeper at why most of the SWA pilots did not support the integration of F9 pilots here, here is a little insight.;....

Many pilots at SWA are getting their fill of stagnant and backwards movement right now. Many are displaced as SWA is moving flying from east to west. Many FO's are understandably upset that what was, until a year or so ago, a 7 year upgrade, now is near 14++ years. Not exactly what they signed up for....

So, is it arrogance? Is it personal to F9? I would say no. I see a bunch of guys, myself included, who don't really need or want to see someone moving into the list in front of them right now.....would you? I am already commuting from my old base, where I live, to my new one, where I don't want to be. Personally, we all do what is best for us, and giving up seniority on top of pay and base loss was not on the menu. It had nothing to do with assumed superiority to F9 people.

While some SWA guys who flame on this board still consider SWA the holy grail, I would observe from watching from the inside, that it is a nice place to work, but it is still just a job. It would have been great to have F9 guys here, but it was not the right fit at the right time.

As far as hubris is concerned, I think that 90% of the posters on this board could take a note on that condition. Aren't we all just geniouses in our own world.......