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bgmann 08-27-2009 05:02 PM

How is JetBlue?
 
If you were to Search 'JetBlue' on these forums, you dont come up with much results. Why so quiet?

It seems to me that JetBlue is where it is at! ... For JetBlue pilots, any of you guys unhappy? You all seem overall satisfied.

JetBlue seems to be healthy. Any rumor of hiring within the next 6 months, or indications of short staffed?

What was JetBlue's flight time hiring minimums when they were hiring?

EMBFlyer419 08-27-2009 07:18 PM

Jet Blue is a flying Greyhound bus...

PurpleCRJ 08-27-2009 07:28 PM

I'm wondering if that Oakland base is going to come to fruition? It sounded like no last time I talked to a JBlue pilot. I think west coast bases might be real senior with them as well, which is a bummer for me. Also, how is the pay raise coming?

Jungle Prop 08-27-2009 08:19 PM

Do not feed this TROLL

meeko031 08-27-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMBFlyer419 (Post 669156)
Jet Blue is a flying Greyhound bus...

and you dont consider the plane and company you work for in the same category!!!

bgmann 08-27-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jungle Prop (Post 669179)
Do not feed this TROLL

Thank you! Just a young lad trying to get some info.

CRFguy 08-27-2009 10:33 PM

Unless you're an upper seniority Bus CA this place is a stepping stone.

atpcliff 08-28-2009 02:14 AM

Hi!

"Unless you're an upper seniority Bus CA this place is a stepping stone.
Unless you're unemployed, or you're working for one of the hundreds (thousands) of aviation organizations that are much worse!
I, for example, am in the middle? towards the end? of a trip. So far, my trip has lasted for about 160 days. Kind of long compared with the average Jet Blue Greyhound Bus trip!
cliff
NBO

bailee atr 08-28-2009 06:19 AM

Any hiring news????

aewanabe 08-28-2009 06:48 AM

Rumor of hiring about 30 late '09-early '10. Pay raises finally coming in October, after 6 months of stall-spin delay tactics. Those will help. Pay/QOL is kinda between a Regional and Legacy. Not a bad place to be but still needs work.

SoCalGuy 08-28-2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 669312)
Rumor of hiring about 30 late '09-early '10. Pay raises finally coming in October, after 6 months of stall-spin delay tactics. Those will help. Pay/QOL is kinda between a Regional and Legacy. Not a bad place to be but still needs work.

In speaking with a JB Crew at the begining of the summer, they said the rates were going to be put in place around June (or early summer)? What was the hang up or stall on the new rates being implimented right away?? Since Mgt is choosing to play ball in October, is there talk of retro, or anything along those lines??

Glad to see JB took a step in the positive direction on the pay rates....congrats.

757Driver 08-28-2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 669312)
Rumor of hiring about 30 late '09-early '10. Pay raises finally coming in October, after 6 months of stall-spin delay tactics. Those will help. Pay/QOL is kinda between a Regional and Legacy. Not a bad place to be but still needs work.


Maybe if you had a contract, .........oh never mind.

EMBFlyer419 08-28-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 669181)
and you dont consider the plane and company you work for in the same category!!!

Oh... I didn't know I told you who I worked for:confused:

LifeNtheFstLne 08-28-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 669356)
Maybe if you had a contract, .........oh never mind.

Comparing to my friends at B6, I'd rather have their lack of contract than the POS C'02 you and I have at CAL. Then again, I'm VERY junior.

Beantown 08-28-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 669347)
In speaking with a JB Crew at the begining of the summer, they said the rates were going to be put in place around June (or early summer)? What was the hang up or stall on the new rates being implimented right away?? Since Mgt is choosing to play ball in October, is there talk of retro, or anything along those lines??

Glad to see JB took a step in the positive direction on the pay rates....congrats.

JB pay raises are reto to June 1st, 2009.

bailee atr 08-28-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 669312)
Rumor of hiring about 30 late '09-early '10. Pay raises finally coming in October, after 6 months of stall-spin delay tactics. Those will help. Pay/QOL is kinda between a Regional and Legacy. Not a bad place to be but still needs work.

Nice.... now I just need to get in the hiring pool!!!:o

SoCalGuy 08-28-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown (Post 669379)
JB pay raises are reto to June 1st, 2009.

Good to hear you guys got Retro covered on mgt's boot drag....Heck of a lot better than a cold kick to the jaw.

aewanabe 08-28-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 669356)
Maybe if you had a contract, .........oh never mind.

If you search my posts I am 100 percent in support of a CBA. Since JBPA didn't make it, bring on ALPA.

In the meantime, training on days off, trans-oceanic deadhead in coach; and my buddies furloughed from CAL still have to work a couple months at 31/hour with FAR work rules... those in glass houses sir.

WorldTraveler 08-28-2009 11:50 AM

I can't speak about the working conditions at JB but I will tell you that as a jumpseater (vicarious passenger) the experience in the back of the airplane is excellent.

Customer service is professional and efficient. Flight attendants and pilots have great attitudes. The airplanes in general are immaculate and that extra few inches of leg room is really nice. They tend not to over book so there are almost always a few empty's in the back for us poor jumpseaters. Once you are booked for the JS, you can check in at a kiosk and just wait for your name to be called. Overall, much better experience that on some legacy carriers.

Newryflyer 08-28-2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldTraveler (Post 669488)
I can't speak about the working conditions at JB but I will tell you that as a jumpseater (vicarious passenger) the experience in the back of the airplane is excellent.

Customer service is professional and efficient. Flight attendants and pilots have great attitudes. The airplanes in general are immaculate and that extra few inches of leg room is really nice. Overall, much better experience that on some legacy carriers.


And its nice to be able to accommodate you guys!!! welcome aboard.

WorldTraveler 08-28-2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newryflyer (Post 669493)
And its nice to be able to accommodate you guys!!! welcome aboard.

See what I mean? :)

Thanks again. If it wasn't for JB there would be an awful lot of stranded UAL people in Florida.

LeeFXDWG 08-28-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newryflyer (Post 669493)
And its nice to be able to accommodate you guys!!! welcome aboard.

Just curious. I know you guys have an "individual" contract.

Wondered if you could post a summary as well as a synopsis of your ROE relating to scheduling practices, etc.

Broaden our horizons some!

FWIW I think you guys did a great job on the pay issue, especially getting retro!

Lee

Flyby1206 08-28-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newryflyer (Post 669493)
And its nice to be able to accommodate you guys!!! welcome aboard.

I ride you guys every week BOS-JFK and back, and the crews have been absolutely awesome every time. I fly for Eagle, and since they closed our BOS base Jetblue has become a crew shuttle for us to get to JFK with 5-8 pilots JSing on every flight, without you guys we would be screwed!! Thank you!

Herkdrv 08-28-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldTraveler (Post 669488)
I can't speak about the working conditions at JB but I will tell you that as a jumpseater (vicarious passenger) the experience in the back of the airplane is excellent.

Customer service is professional and efficient. Flight attendants and pilots have great attitudes. The airplanes in general are immaculate and that extra few inches of leg room is really nice. They tend not to over book so there are almost always a few empty's in the back for us poor jumpseaters. Once you are booked for the JS, you can check in at a kiosk and just wait for your name to be called. Overall, much better experience that on some legacy carriers.

I agree JB rocks when it comes to jump seating! Thanks guys.

buffmike80 08-28-2009 11:17 PM

We are signing our PEA's on the new payrates sept 1st, and we will see it in our paychecks on Oct 20th, and it is retro back to June 1st. Just flew with the Training Manager for the 190 a few weeks ago and asked him about any hiering late this year, and he said its not going to happen, at the soonest it will be in 2010. Every pilot I have flown with is pretty excited about the new pay and work rules coming, there are a few 320 guys that are upset that the 13.30 rig is going away, but considering how small of a portion of the pilot group that benifited there are much better rigs and overrides that will benifit 100% of the group. As for us not getting a union, I think it has benifited us pretty well, we seen 15-35% pay increase for most of the pilot group and major work rules and rigs comming our way in less than 10 months time, if we had voted YES it would have been well over a year to get the same things we are getting now.

Clue32 08-29-2009 02:42 AM

What have the hiring mins been in the past. I'll be coming out of the army next spring and would love to be picked up by Jet Blue. I may not have thousands of hours of regional jet flying, but hopefully my military experience will help make my fewer hours just as valuable.

Logger 08-29-2009 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 669752)
What have the hiring mins been in the past. I'll be coming out of the army next spring and would love to be picked up by Jet Blue. I may not have thousands of hours of regional jet flying, but hopefully my military experience will help make my fewer hours just as valuable.

In the past, it has been 1000 PIC (does not have to be turbine), 500-1000 turbine (turboprops included), and 1500 total time. Military has received a 0.3 conversion on all time. There are quite a few furloughs out there so the "competitive" mins have moved higher in the most recent hiring period.

Your military experience will serve you well. JetBlue likes military guys as much as they like high time regional captains. Hour and experience help secure the interview, but, if you really desire to come here, go to a flight ops open house with a JetBlue booth or a company open house in Orlando. Meet and Greet.

maddogbjb68 08-29-2009 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 669347)
In speaking with a JB Crew at the begining of the summer, they said the rates were going to be put in place around June (or early summer)? What was the hang up or stall on the new rates being implimented right away?? Since Mgt is choosing to play ball in October, is there talk of retro, or anything along those lines??

Glad to see JB took a step in the positive direction on the pay rates....congrats.

No retro with out a contract. Why was a union voted out anyway?

maddogbjb68 08-29-2009 06:04 AM

Don't expect retro w/o a contract or on mgt's word.

Why was a union voted down?

maddogbjb68 08-29-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 669347)
In speaking with a JB Crew at the begining of the summer, they said the rates were going to be put in place around June (or early summer)? What was the hang up or stall on the new rates being implimented right away?? Since Mgt is choosing to play ball in October, is there talk of retro, or anything along those lines??

Glad to see JB took a step in the positive direction on the pay rates....congrats.

No retro guarantee w/o a contract.

aewanabe 08-29-2009 06:12 AM

Maddog: I think we're gonna see retro, as management has put it in writing several times and this place would explode without it. Having said that, I fully believe we need a CBA for about 100 reasons and have disagreed with BuffMike on this in the past.

aewanabe 08-29-2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 669752)
What have the hiring mins been in the past. I'll be coming out of the army next spring and would love to be picked up by Jet Blue. I may not have thousands of hours of regional jet flying, but hopefully my military experience will help make my fewer hours just as valuable.

Clue: my experience as a civvy guy has been that your mil experience will be welcomed and valued by our hiring peeps and in the cockpit. A couple of my favorite captains are ex-mil and for the most part guys seem to learn from each others' experience, rather than focusing on background. JetBlue seems to look at quality of experience as well as quantity, you just need to meet the posted mins for insurance purposes. Hope this helps and hope to see you online after you separate!

maddogbjb68 08-29-2009 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 669347)
In speaking with a JB Crew at the begining of the summer, they said the rates were going to be put in place around June (or early summer)? What was the hang up or stall on the new rates being implimented right away?? Since Mgt is choosing to play ball in October, is there talk of retro, or anything along those lines??

Glad to see JB took a step in the positive direction on the pay rates....congrats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 669804)
Maddog: I think we're gonna see retro, as management has put it in writing several times and this place would explode without it. Having said that, I fully believe we need a CBA for about 100 reasons and have disagreed with BuffMike on this in the past.

It helps a lot. Speaking in terms of being a ex Spirit Captain.

SoCalGuy 08-29-2009 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddogbjb68 (Post 669802)
Don't expect retro w/o a contract or on mgt's word.

Why was a union voted down?

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddogbjb68 (Post 669803)
No retro guarantee w/o a contract.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddogbjb68 (Post 669800)
No retro with out a contract. Why was a union voted out anyway?

3 posts w/in 7 minutes....same thing....easy on the AM coffee:cool:

johnso29 08-29-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMBFlyer419 (Post 669156)
Jet Blue is a flying Greyhound bus...

That's pretty darn funny coming from a E175 pilot.:rolleyes:

BTW, when did Greyhound start putting all leather and TV in their buses?:eek:

bgmann 08-29-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 669994)
That's pretty darn funny coming from a E175 pilot.:rolleyes:

BTW, when did Greyhound start putting all leather and TV in their buses?:eek:

Thank you for replying to the second post! Well I wont be getting 1000PIC at Eagle anytime soon! Will have to start worshiping at my nearest temple to get hired at jetblue it seems, unless they like Eagle EMB SIC time. :)

ERJ135 08-29-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 669587)
I ride you guys every week BOS-JFK and back, and the crews have been absolutely awesome every time. I fly for Eagle, and since they closed our BOS base Jetblue has become a crew shuttle for us to get to JFK with 5-8 pilots JSing on every flight, without you guys we would be screwed!! Thank you!

Without JB AMR's jfk operation would grind to a halt, hahaha...

CRFguy 08-29-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 670016)
Thank you for replying to the second post! Well I wont be getting 1000PIC at Eagle anytime soon! Will have to start worshiping at my nearest temple to get hired at jetblue it seems, unless they like Eagle EMB SIC time. :)

During our last hiring 'spree', we hired guys without TPIC. Rumor was they were high SIC guys from Eagle.

maddogbjb68 08-30-2009 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 669822)
3 posts w/in 7 minutes....same thing....easy on the AM coffee:cool:


Yea, sorry about that. Thought my posts didn't go thru for some reason. I am new to the forum. Good luck and nice talking w/ you.

Flyby1206 08-30-2009 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRFguy (Post 670162)
During our last hiring 'spree', we hired guys without TPIC. Rumor was they were high SIC guys from Eagle.

Im hoping they do that again when hiring resumes! There were a lot of Eagle FOs with 3000+ right seat RJ time and no PIC who went over in the previous spree.


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