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snopilot 09-08-2009 06:27 PM

Republic to buy USair.

JeremiahWeed 09-08-2009 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 675313)
the rumor coming from alot of airways guys is that the east and west will be split and sold off to CAL and AMR. I cant remember who gets the east or the west. If AMR really wants Airways, they should just wait a year or so and buy their assets in bankruptcy court.

Actually heard something similiar to that. Only RAH gets the East. Good friend of mine is a 20+ year Airways Capt. and we were talking on the phone and he brought that up. Guess it's the rumor floating around at Airways.

When he asked what I thought, I couldn't help but laugh. He got p****d and asked why I laughed. Told him it was quite the funny rumor. What I really wanted to say is their pilot group is the last thing we need.

Fortunately, rumors are like A**h***s, everyone has got one!

Joker

CaptKrunch 09-08-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 675204)
So you're hypothisizing that AMR is buying U almost STRICTLY for their feeders ?

Buy U mainline assets and merge that into AA mainline (AA certificate) and sell Eagle to U to operate an independant domestic carrier operating large RJ's on the U certificate (maybe run by Parker) ?

Hmmmmmm............................

I would think most of U mainline would likely disappear over a few years along with most of their uncompatable aircraft and the surviving feeders under U (those with larger RJ's) would merge together (perhaps with Eagle) to expand into a seperate domestic carrier with hundreds of E-190 type aircraft. AA becomes a smaller (then post U merger) International, transcon, long range domestic and "special market" player and U becomes a short/medium and some long range domestic behemoth with wildly profitable 100-seaters ?

In theory, I can see how that would make AMR drool as that way AMR controls both carriers seperately and reaps the rewards for domination and competitivness in both markets, but I'm not sure what the obstacles are ?

I don't think this is what texas was saying at all. An example is Mesa. Mesa opperates CRJ-900 aircraft for US Airways but the contract they run on was signed between Mesa and America West. So ((((IF)))) AA/US would happen AA might beable to have RAH and Mesa opperate the 90 seat aircraft under the contract they signed with US/AW.

B757200ER 09-08-2009 07:12 PM

:rolleyes:

Yawn...

yxcanned 09-08-2009 07:15 PM

I wouldn't be surprised on that one
 

Originally Posted by snopilot (Post 675345)
Republic to buy USair.

Brian Bedford (RAH CEO) has said he is interested in buying another carrier, for cheap, of course. So U would need to file BK for BB to go after them. This guy is the master of getting around scope clauses.

He would only want the A320s and E190s and tie them into the F9/YX network.

Mason32 09-08-2009 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by AAflyer (Post 675134)
Something is going on.... This is a hot topic on our union message board. Many of us keep hearing some "Big" announcement in October//

Oh no........

AA:eek:

They can go the way of Reno, TWA, and every other company AMR assimilated... it will be slowly dismantled until all that is left is what AA looks like today...

yxcanned 09-08-2009 07:20 PM

Don't be yawning, better watch your 6
 

Originally Posted by B757200ER (Post 675394)
:rolleyes:

Yawn...

Read some of the recent posts on the Latest and Greatest DAL thread. They are realizing the threat that the E190 flown by regional groups poses to mainline .

alfaromeo 09-08-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 675313)
the rumor coming from alot of airways guys is that the east and west will be split and sold off to CAL and AMR. I cant remember who gets the east or the west. If AMR really wants Airways, they should just wait a year or so and buy their assets in bankruptcy court.

I think a few months is more like it. LCC is already bumping off their cash covenant for the credit card processor. After that triggers, the dominoes fall pretty quick.

eaglefly 09-08-2009 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 675313)
the rumor coming from alot of airways guys is that the east and west will be split and sold off to CAL and AMR. I cant remember who gets the east or the west. If AMR really wants Airways, they should just wait a year or so and buy their assets in bankruptcy court.

If so, that would seem to leave UAL without a dance partner and they'd flop for sure............of course, perhaps that's the idea.

eaglefly 09-08-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by CaptKrunch (Post 675351)
I don't think this is what texas was saying at all. An example is Mesa. Mesa opperates CRJ-900 aircraft for US Airways but the contract they run on was signed between Mesa and America West. So ((((IF)))) AA/US would happen AA might beable to have RAH and Mesa opperate the 90 seat aircraft under the contract they signed with US/AW.

Not if they're smart.

AMR is anything but dumb (well usually). My guess is AMR will join the rest of the crowd and avoid Mesa like a scorching case of herpes.


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