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newKnow 09-08-2009 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 675415)
I think a few months is more like it. LCC is already bumping off their cash covenant for the credit card processor. After that triggers, the dominoes fall pretty quick.

The LCC pilots would probably be too busy fighting and calling each other stupid to even realize they were getting sold off in peices. I wonder what happens to a judgment when the parties don't exist anymore.

ERJF15 09-08-2009 08:13 PM

This goes to show you...no matter what side of the fence you're on (AA or Eagle), if your pay check says AMR, we're all screwed!

fr8tmastr 09-08-2009 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 675258)
You are more right than you know, those easties are that stupid, the apa would roll them with ease.

Yes I'm sure someone with as much class as yourself could just walk up to the APA and they would just hand you the keys to their newest 777, you know with relative seniority and all.
Do you really think all your 3rd grade insults are endearing you to the AA or any other pilots?
Yea you get alot of kudos from the internet tough guy crowd but that wont help when you are being stapled.
So why dont you do yourself and your fellow pilots, yes even East a favor and try to come up with a fair way to merge groups if this rumor ever came true.
If you think AAA was bad try telling those in line for the 777 how relatively D.O. is really senior to them.
I believe if you spent a fraction of the time you spend insulting East pilots on every board on the net, trying to figure this out, you have a good chance of coming up with something. Good luck we will all need it.

AZFlyer 09-08-2009 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by AAflyer (Post 675293)
That would make more sense, it just seems Doug P has been see in DFW lately. Would like to know why.

AA

Parker has already made it public knowledge that he would like a merger with AA.

all4114all 09-08-2009 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 675415)
LCC is already bumping off their cash covenant for the credit card processor. After that triggers, the dominoes fall pretty quick.

Misinformation. AMR needs cash. There will be a swap of slots. AMR has LGA no DCA. USairways has still a lot of LGA and extra DCA. U swaps DCA for some of AMR's ORD. In this economy bartering has replaced cash, the airlines are no different.

Look for Delta empty gates at ORD to go to USairways. USairways presently has gates in terminal 2, Northwest also has gates in terminal 2. Delta is going to move to terminal 2. Do the math.

Gate changes predicted for Chicago O'Hare - Executive Travel Magazine

newKnow 09-08-2009 11:31 PM

I don't know. Your math might be old. That article was published in February 2009. These rumors are fresh. The US Air boys may get their divorce wish granted.

cactiboss 09-08-2009 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by fr8tmastr (Post 675472)
Yes I'm sure someone with as much class as yourself could just walk up to the APA and they would just hand you the keys to their newest 777, you know with relative seniority and all.
Do you really think all your 3rd grade insults are endearing you to the AA or any other pilots?
Yea you get alot of kudos from the internet tough guy crowd but that wont help when you are being stapled.
So why dont you do yourself and your fellow pilots, yes even East a favor and try to come up with a fair way to merge groups if this rumor ever came true.
If you think AAA was bad try telling those in line for the 777 how relatively D.O. is really senior to them.
I believe if you spent a fraction of the time you spend insulting East pilots on every board on the net, trying to figure this out, you have a good chance of coming up with something. Good luck we will all need it.

Nice, all I said is that usapa is run by a bunch of scumbag idiots that don't stand a chance against the apa and I have no doubt the lcc pilots would all get stapled, that would include me and you.

eaglefly 09-08-2009 11:44 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some type of recent legislation regarding fair and equitable integration regarding mergering labor groups recently ?

cactiboss 09-09-2009 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 675507)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some type of recent legislation regarding fair and equitable integration regarding mergering labor groups recently ?

You mean binding arbitration? The east pilots don't recognize that.

AA767AV8TOR 09-09-2009 03:02 AM

I just don’t see this happening, at least not anytime soon. The big play AMR is banking on is a merger with BA/Iberia, which is supposedly coming this fall or winter. AA and BA have been working to make this happen for a decade. AMR is not thinking domestically as much as globally.

The sad thing, AA will be to BA to what Eagle is to AA – just a feed.

With the credit markets frozen, airlines shrinking, and the current economic environment still clouded, I just don’t see any of the majors making a big play this time. It’s just too risky plus AMR doesn’t have access to the money/credit like they had in the past. AA is only doing slightly better than UAL and USAIR now, which doesn’t exactly put us into that good of a position to be buying an airline.

The other plausible scenario is for the stronger players to wait for USAIR and UAL to fall into BK and then pluck off the pieces like vultures. Sad but true.

On the other hand……you just never know. Best of luck to all of us.

AA767AV8TOR


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