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10-14-2009, 03:33 PM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

If you work for an airline I would assume that it will be their responsibility to ATP you.

Bad assumption. If it's not spelled out in the law, then that will be up to the airline to decide.

Hopefully most will pony up since it should just be a PC + extra maneuvers + 8710.

10-14-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Bad assumption. If it's not spelled out in the law, then that will be up to the airline to decide.

Hopefully most will pony up since it should just be a PC + extra maneuvers + 8710.

True, but the precedence of the Radio Telephone permit, a Passport etc are there. When those became required the companies that I know of footed the bill.

10-14-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvJockey

A late change was made to the legislation allowing "credit" toward flight hours for specific academic training, which CAPA is opposed to...

so does that allow places like gulfstream acadamey to still operate and place students in the right seat of 121 ops?

10-14-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Bad assumption. If it's not spelled out in the law, then that will be up to the airline to decide.

Hopefully most will pony up since it should just be a PC + extra maneuvers + 8710.

This was my point, albeit poorly worded.

10-14-2009, 03:53 PM

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10-14-2009, 03:57 PM

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My point was that if they do not grandfather in current non-atp pilots the airlines will have to foot the bill. New applicants will have to meet the ATP mins and hold the certificate.

10-14-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

"Let's hope your regional doesn't cheap out....

Good luck with that. I can't even get a replacement for my faded epaullettes!!!

10-14-2009, 04:08 PM

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Good luck with that. I can't even get a replacement for my faded epaullettes!!!

Unless you work for UPS (where all items are paid for) em second ones are on you.

10-14-2009, 04:15 PM

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This bill will be a boon for military flying, which is a good thing for the nation. Get more time and better training at government expense, get your ATP on your own time, and show up ready to go with an airline. That "used" to be the way it was done before the regionals became a player and grew exponentially in the early 2000s.