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Putting jumpseaters working for another company |
UAL 737's parked....STAR Alliance for CAL is done....now this.....then I saw an article today with Tilton stating that the airlines are building liquidity to merge.
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Originally Posted by contrail67
(Post 702843)
UAL 737's parked....STAR Alliance for CAL is done....now this.....then I saw an article today with Tilton stating that the airlines are building liquidity to merge.
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I saw it this morning ...dated yesterday..very small article...I am still trying to find it, (forgot where it was) but that is exactly what it said....and he was quoted on it. I found something similar..here it is but it is not exactly the article I read earlier...found it on ft.com..financial times.com.
UAL sees scope for airline mergers By Justin Baer in New York Published: October 28 2009 02:00 | Last updated: October 28 2009 02:00 A recent spate of capital raisings by US airlines has removed a key obstacle in the industry's pursuit of sweeping consolidation, according to the chief executive of United Airlines. Glenn Tilton told the Financial Times that consolidation should still play a role in shaping the US aviation industry's future, adding that balance sheets had "probably" improved enough to help finance prospective merger plans. "There is still too much capacity in the US market," he said. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b1d594e2-c...44feab49a.html |
Originally Posted by southbound
(Post 702825)
Express pilots still enjoy date of hire (at Express) priority as SA3P and SA3V with a seat in the back. So you can be a 2005 hire at Express and trump a 2006 mainline CAL hire for a seat in the back on a Mailnline flight.
We can go round and round about, and the usual argument of "we own the seats" can be used, whatever. Passriding has NO bearing what so ever when it comes to JS'ing. Do UAL pilot get first priority on USAir JS's? Do USAir pilots get first priority on UAL JS's? Not every airline has the same relationship with their feeders as far as passriders. Some prioritize their own employees before everybody else. One of the many, many issues of being a former "wholly owned" carrier, as well as the agreements that were set in place when that was over. Also, MOST legacies have similar JS priorities. That airlines pilots first, then the regionals that feed (in whatever pecking order), THEN offline. |
Originally Posted by Jetlinker
(Post 702811)
Why the thumbs up jsled? This is just another flip of the bird to regional pilots by ALPA national. Why should United pilots have a higher jumpseat priority than ExpressJet pilots when we serve Continental exclusively? Just another slap in the face by CAL and ALPA. Further proof that to ALPA national, we are merely second class citizens.
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Originally Posted by SOTeric
(Post 702973)
Hey, you get some of our pilot jobs therefore we furlough the mainline. What more do you want.
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Originally Posted by Jetlinker
(Post 703084)
Hold on there dude. ExpressJet (formerly COEX) has been on CAL property flying only 50 seats or less for a loooong time, long before there were ever any furloughs at CAL. Our flying has been reduced and we have close to 350 on furlough. So don't get on the 'you've stolen mainline jobs' rant. Go bark at Republic.
I remember when I got hired that CAL mainline used to fly all over the place domestically. St Louis, for instance, was all mainline. Then slowly but surely a company called Express started to grow. Amazingly we didn't and if I recall right for 7 years CAL didn't hire one single Pilot, (1990-1997). To get on here and lament that people are stealing your flying is almost laughable. I don't wish this on anybody but it wasn't Republic who started this trend and a good look in the rear view mirror might be in order. |
Originally Posted by 757Driver
(Post 703121)
Kettle, meet pot.
I remember when I got hired that CAL mainline used to fly all over the place domestically. St Louis, for instance, was all mainline. Then slowly but surely a company called Express started to grow. Amazingly we didn't and if I recall right for 7 years CAL didn't hire one single Pilot, (1990-1997). To get on here and lament that people are stealing your flying is almost laughable. I don't wish this on anybody but it wasn't Republic who started this trend and a good look in the rear view mirror might be in order. All of XJT's growth took place while CAL owned XJT. The ERJ's didn't hit the property until 1997. So whatever happened between 1990-1997 was not caused by the ERJ. It was a terribly run airline before Bethune got there. Right now CAL is probably in the best shape of any legacy because there are no RJ's bigger that 50 seats on property, and hopefully it stays that way. If that changes, you have nobody to blame but yourself. |
Originally Posted by Jetlinker
(Post 703127)
You've misunderstood what I said. I never said anybody stole XJT flying. That is laughable.
All of XJT's growth took place while CAL owned XJT. The ERJ's didn't hit the property until 1997. So whatever happened between 1990-1997 was not caused by the ERJ. It was a terribly run airline before Bethune got there. Right now CAL is probably in the best shape of any legacy because there are no RJ's bigger that 50 seats on property, and hopefully it stays that way. If that changes, you have nobody to blame but yourself. |
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