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DAL73n 02-25-2010 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 742629)
I think it is somewhat foolish to think that pilots will actually be retiring at 65.

The truth is most of retirements will take place at 62-63.
As soon as the market starts recovering and mutual funds climbing, I think, we will see people calling it done.
The other side of the medal is medicals. Before age 65 change 20% of pilots ages 57-60 were losing medicals.
The other thing that will help those that stay healthy is that over sixty the disability population will grow - guys won't "retire", they will just be on the seniority list Long Term Disability portion. For those that didn't notice during the SLI, approximately 5% of the Delta list and 10% of the NWA list were on long term disability - just something to note. Those guys may not retire however they will also not be actively flying. I'm sure similar things will be happening with other airlines if they have any kind of decent disability program.

tsquare 02-25-2010 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 743666)
Hired at NWA in 2008 at 27, alot of luck, timing and sacrifice

all of those DAL numbers assume age 65, fact is the majority of the near term retirements are from the NWA side. A lot of those guys still have a pension left along with military retirements. The majority wont stay much past 62 if they continue past 60 at all. The movement is coming and it will be alot sooner than most think. Also a bunch of our early out guys havent even been allowed to leave yet so those numbers dont account for that either.

The more the merrier!! ;)
Not only do you wear the WRONG shade of orange, but for the reason highlilghted above... I truly hate you. :D

tsquare 02-25-2010 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by OrionTanker (Post 752453)
There was an earlier post that alot of pilots would retire before they hit 65. That is an awful assumption. I would enjoy these fat old guys gone yesterday, but... The problem is pilots in general are greedy and the economy has tanked. At good ole SWA trailways many old timers said they would leave at age 61-62 years of age when the new rule kicked in, but they are still on property. Seniority rules.
This^^^^^^^^^

Dirtdiver 02-25-2010 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by DAL73n (Post 769366)
I'm sure similar things will be happening with other airlines if they have any kind of decent disability program.


And that's why we won't have much of a disability program soon.

ZapBrannigan 02-25-2010 05:45 PM
I was hired at US Airways at 25 years old. Furloughed at 28.

Now i'm almost 37, i'm working at a corporate flight department where I'm happy but weary of what the future holds. Thought I had the brass ring at 25. Life happens. I'm always on the look out for my next job.

Asland 08-30-2010 01:59 PM
these numbers Are interesting, but nobody is talking about how much
legacy carriers are planning to downsize or how taxes are going up next year
which will stunt the economy (again) or how even a small terrorist attack
could put us in another spiral...... just sayin

johnso29 08-30-2010 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by Asland (Post 863213)
these numbers Are interesting, but nobody is talking about how much
legacy carriers are planning to downsize or how taxes are going up next year
which will stunt the economy (again) or how even a small terrorist attack
could put us in another spiral...... just sayin
Yawn. What else is new? It's easier to plan for advancement based on retirements as opposed to lack there of based on unpredictable acts of god, terrorism, etc.

newKnow 08-30-2010 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Asland (Post 863213)
these numbers Are interesting, but nobody is talking about how much
legacy carriers are planning to downsize or how taxes are going up next year
which will stunt the economy (again) or how even a small terrorist attack
could put us in another spiral...... just sayin

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esa17 08-30-2010 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 742478)
There certainly won't be a pilot shortage, however anyone that has high qualifications is going to sucked up by the majors pretty quick. Age 65 sucks!!!
Not for those of us a year or two away from hireable time. I don't think there will be a shortage but we will see some serious movement.


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