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Old 02-03-2010, 07:20 AM
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What is United's plan? Furlough all narrow body pilot's and replace them with RJ's? Does UAL have any scope?

Atlanta Metro News | ajc.com

ASA takes flight with new partner: United

Long a Delta Connection carrier, it will operate United Express routes.

By Kelly Yamanouchi
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Wednesday, February 03, 2010

Atlantic Southeast Airlines isn’t just a Delta Connection carrier anymore.
Starting Feb. 11, Atlanta-based ASA will also fly as a United Express carrier on flights out of Chicago-based United Airlines’ hubs at Washington’s Dulles and Chicago’s O’Hare international airports.


It’s the first time regional carrier ASA has flown for any partner other than Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines. ASA president Brad Holt sees it as a way for ASA to branch out in the unpredictable airline industry, beyond its roots as a Delta partner and one-time subsidiary.

“This is a new experience for ASA,” Holt said. “This was a good opportunity to diversify a bit.”

To start, ASA will fly eight 50-seat CRJ-200 regional jets for United Express and will eventually add six more to the operation. ASA has a total fleet of about 160 aircraft.

Delta sold ASA to another regional carrier, Utah-based SkyWest, in 2005. SkyWest already flies for United Express. The five-year deal for ASA flying was part of an agreement for SkyWest to loan $80 million to United.
Delta is “fine with the whole thing,” Holt said. “We’ve not kept any secrets from them.”

Delta declined to comment.

ASA will also open a new crew base in Washington for roughly 120 crew members, along with maintenance staff for the United Express operation.
Holt hopes the geographic diversification will also lessen the blow of Atlanta storms on ASA’s on-time performance.

Because of ASA’s concentration of flights in Atlanta at Delta’s hub, “when the weather is bad, it impacts ASA more than anyone else,” Holt said. Especially during thunderstorm season, ASA has had some of the lowest on-time performance ratings among airlines.

The 14 CRJ-200s ASA will fly for United are among 20 ASA jets Delta is pulling from its service this year as it moves to larger regional jets operated by ASA.

When Delta makes a decision to reduce flying, “it really hits company-wide,” Holt said.

It’s unclear what ASA will do with the remaining 6 aircraft being pulled out of service later this year.

“We have several irons in the fire,” Holt said. “Our intention is to continue to grow this airline and also to invest in other companies that have growth opportunities.”

Holt said he has had talks with numerous other airlines, including talks with a Vietnamese startup, Mekong Air, about supplying technical expertise.
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old news...use the search function...been discussed at nausium
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We do have a number of gently used RJ's, if you're still in the market.

And we won't be undersold.
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UAL is always about 2-3 years behind the rest of the industry in "innovative" ideas. Probably in about 2 years they will have compiled the data to announce that they believe winglets will save them gas.

So, as the rest of the industry moves away from 50 seat CRJs, GT and the merry boys on Whacker (or Sears Tower) still think they are super.
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Didn't realize Holt left Skywest for ASA.
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Didn't realize Holt left Skywest for ASA.
ASA is a subsidiary of Skywest, right?
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Didn't realize Holt left Skywest for ASA.
He's still on our seniority list, but he got to move up on the executive ladder by going over there. It was a win-win by all accounts. The SKW pilots were getting pretty sick of him, but it turned out that he was a whole hell of a lot better than what ASA had before, so they thought the guy was the second coming.
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I saw like a half dozen UAL RJs over there at the ASA hangar the other day. I guess they're ready to go now.
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
We do have a number of gently used RJ's, if you're still in the market.

And we won't be undersold.
Should there be a "Gently Used CRJ200s For Codeshare Use! Call Delta Today. Supplies not limited." sticker on our flight kits?
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Mesa and Chautaugua are out, ASA and ExpressJet are in (at much better rates). Just good bizness.
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