Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 774239)

Always have for the last 10 years, always will. But thanks for the advice junior. Does that have ANYTHING to do with three different "brands" being lumped into one flight?

Originally Posted by hiredgun (Post 774817)

This leads to the point that the former Midwest CEO while good for the airline in it's early days, didn't have the operational competence and leadership to evolve and grow the airline with the changing times once it grew to be more than just a quaint little mom and pop operation. He was obviously in way over his head the last decade or more and was looking for a graceful exit road paved with gold and he got it, as far as most of the general public is concerned, but at the expense of 2000 employees' jobs. The reality is shameful but I doubt any of his neighbors near his new $2 million house in a gated Florida country club community will know any different. He got his...he11, he's even in the WI Aviation Hall of Fame. GMAFB! The YX BOD should've replaced him 15 years ago with someone possessing a proven operational track record but he was their darling and the business community's as well so that would've never happened unless he left on his own volition. Given the history of widespread operational incompetence and executive corruption in the industry, I imagine it would've been difficult for the BOD to find a quality CEO since executives like Bethune and Kelleher were the exception and not the rule.

Originally Posted by Dirty Rat (Post 774734)

Well, somebody is listening. This from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal. Seems the general public knows whats going on here. Too bad the employees who implemented this can't see what misery they have caused by low balling a once great company.

MIDWEST AIRLINES

Republic's ownership has hurt employees

Possibly the people of Milwaukee were smarter than Republic Airways CEO Bryan Bedford ever gave us credit for (Page 1A, Feb. 27).
After you send every pilot and flight attendant to the unemployment line, not to mention the mechanics and corporate staff who have blatantly been replaced by Indiana-based Republic, we show our disapproval by putting our money elsewhere - by flying Air Tran or Southwest.
The name of an airline and the ridiculous cookie will never erase the negative feelings associated with Republic Airways. Milwaukee's economy is paying the price for Republic's ruthless business practices. Thousands of laid-off Midwest employees are still collecting unemployment compensation, food stamps, heating assistance, Title 19 health care, re-education and re-training funds while Republic's management and unions have made no real attempt to get those laid off back to work.
My advice to the employees of Frontier? Get your affairs in order before this happens to you.
Katherine McHugh
Milwaukee

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 774845)

No, but it's a show of character when someone pipes down just long enough for the free ride...

Originally Posted by Wiscopilot (Post 774706)

Well Mr. expressjet if you have any tips on how not to be successful in a branded operation I'm sure we will all listen.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 774882)

I'm not stating one thing or another about the opinion of Wisconsinites regarding the Midwest brand, but this is obviously NOT the general public. I'm all for people trying to provide background information to their arguments, but calling rants from understandably ticked off YX employees the "general public" doesn't count.

Originally Posted by yxcanned (Post 774879)

Very accurate post.

One of the reasons I stayed at Midwest was I thought a new CEO was imminent. TH told me and several others at a small "talk with Tim" in Dec. 04 that he would retire in Dec. 06. I knew he was in over his head, but we had such a good product and loyal following, surely someone could be found to advance the company to the next level.

Sadly, it is BB with the loss of our seniority.

Regardless, nearly all my animosity in this debacle is directed at the selfish TH.

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 774845)

No, but it's a show of character when someone pipes down just long enough for the free ride...

Originally Posted by Wiscopilot (Post 774706)

Well Mr. expressjet if you have any tips on how not to be successful in a branded operation I'm sure we will all listen.

Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 774919)

I agree. RAH, (I suspect) is more in the area of opportunistic rather than the complete bad guys.
This mess goes back to TH & the Board with who knows how TPG/Seabury and NWA/Delta play into the mix. Looking back on it, I am more and more puzzled by the vehement rejection of AirTran by TH etc.
For many of us the quickest route to a flying job that pays the bills is most likely Republic Airways. We had better hope that they make this work and sort out the current difficulties. This is not being pollyanna. It is just the way it is for the furloughed YX'ers, the Lynx guys and gals, the furloughed RAH pilots and many thousands of other employees currently on the property.
Good luck to everyone involved.