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It's funny, and tragic, all at the same time that we're talking about such an instance and it has made SUCH a headline....
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
(Post 773083)
It's funny, and tragic, all at the same time that we're talking about such an instance and it has made SUCH a headline....
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
(Post 772543)
Well that's great, but it doesn't answer the question. There are lots of things that happened 20-30 years ago that are different today. 20-30 years ago people were smoking on planes, would you allow your pax to smoke if they wanted to? 20-30 years ago you were taught that if there was a hijacker on board, you should bring them up to the cockpit to discuss things. Is that how you would handle it today?
Now back to the question, your F/O wants to bring his kid up to the jumpseat in the middle of the flight. Do you let him do it and what opinion do you have of his judgment? BTW, I am absolutely not advocating that this controller be "fired"....and before everyone starts the letter writing campaign, he hasn't been fired. Simply relieved of his duties while they investigate. |
Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
(Post 773082)
And if, after accepting said clearance, promptly ran into a fuel truck crossing the runway? Or botched up a V1 cut? Or hit birds, had both engines quit, and landed in the Hudson (either successfully, or worse, not so much so)?
Or declared "may day, may day, may day", but during the time of the transmission, a 10 year old was blocking out the radio issuing "supervised" ATC control instructions? |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 772608)
This was probly JFK mid day. Not a busy or dangerous place. There was NO safety issue at all.
If more fathers took this type of interest in their sons, I think the world would be a better place. Best post on the topic. Sad that this point is lost amongst all the self-proclaimed aviation "experts" aka the media. Someone should write a letter to the editor. |
WOW, they just played the guy's (JFK controller) daughter who he let control airplanes the next day. She was really very good.
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As an air passenger and non-pilot I am not scared by this at all. I believe that pilots and air traffic controllers have displayed to me a level of professionalism that far exceeds the level of pay and respect that they get. Who knows how many doctors or lawyers bring their kids into their office and allow them to do filing or photocopying. If the files were to be misplaced there would be serious problems, but nobody questions those professional judgments because we trust doctors and lawyers to be sure that mistakes will not be made.
If it was not disrupting operations or safety, I don't see whats so wrong about it. I heard a recording and it seemed like all the pilots really thought that it was cute. |
WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN SULLY INTERVIEWED ONCE ON THIS? seriously folks...what would sully do?
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Originally Posted by tuna hp
(Post 773164)
As an air passenger and non-pilot I am not scared by this at all. I believe that pilots and air traffic controllers have displayed to me a level of professionalism that far exceeds the level of pay and respect that they get. Who knows how many doctors or lawyers bring their kids into their office and allow them to do filing or photocopying. If the files were to be misplaced there would be serious problems, but nobody questions those professional judgments because we trust doctors and lawyers to be sure that mistakes will not be made.
If it was not disrupting operations or safety, I don't see whats so wrong about it. I heard a recording and it seemed like all the pilots really thought that it was cute. Please don't counter with the BS "it was nice that he took his son to work with him and let him pretend to be a controller". I agree no damage was done, the father was obviously monitoring the situation and yes, the electronic and print media made a circus of this isolated incident. Of greater concern is the fact that the circus hype created by this incident has not done anything in terms of selling "professionalism" in this industry at a time when we need all the friends we can muster in Washington. G'Day Mates:) |
Originally Posted by Phantom Flyer
(Post 773235)
What was a non-FAA employee doing in the cab to begin with ?
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