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HSLD 03-08-2010 02:09 PM

OK, let me get this straight - Scope is a good thing? :confused::p

DeadHead 03-08-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by beeker (Post 775455)
I can see it now in dojetdriver's cockpit. "Hey there's a thunderstorm over the field, we are going to have to hold." then dojetdriver responds, "no let's go for it, i hit blackjack on my last 3 hands last night so am I really lucky right now.

Come on, seriously now, don't you know a real man's pilot plays Texas Hold 'Em.

logic1 03-08-2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 774842)
And none of those "minimally qualified" F/Os at UAL was flying with a 3000 hour Captain with 5 checkride busts.

Your right....they were flying with a checkairman, landing in a thunderstorm in LIT!

logic1 03-08-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 775233)
Captain Bligh, yes there were some less qualified folks hire at ual in the 80's. That is not the majority of the pilots there it is the exception. just like and I will only use a small example. Lets say some of the pilots hired at cal in the 80's yes the ones hired out of the newspaper ads that met in hotel rooms for a quick interview, no sim no evaluation, is this typical there no did it happen yes. How bout some amr floks hired I know some low time, flunked the sim check during interview, knew someone got back for second try, typical no but all airlines have them not just ual.

And every regional captain does not have 3000 hrs and 5 failed checkrides!

syd111 03-08-2010 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 775507)
And every regional captain does not have 3000 hrs and 5 failed checkrides!

Okay can you show me where I said that about regional pilots???? Thats right nowhere.

dojetdriver 03-08-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by beeker (Post 775588)
dojetdriver, how do you know that we have never shared a cockpit? Seems a bit presumptuous.

It's on you to prove otherwise, PM me and I'll gladly tell you. If I did something that was unsafe, scared you, or seemed like "gambling", you failed to speak up. Which does not only you, but me, and any other pilot that flies with me a disservice.

But your previous post pretty much sums it up, no need.

Eric Stratton 03-08-2010 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Aloha (Post 774729)
How can ALPA represent both the RJ guys and the Mainline guys at the same time? They are in direct competition with eachother, are they not? It would be like using a realator that is representing the buyer and the seller. Your thoughts?

This is wrong.

Mainline and regional pilots are not competing against each other. The flying that the regionals do is the flying that mainline has decided they didn't want to do or weren't willing to fight harder to keep.

ALPA's job isn't to get larger equipment for it's pilots. It's to get the best contract (in regards to contracts) that it can for the equipment that it's currently flying. Are United pilots telling management that they need to go and get the A380? No. Are Skywest pilots telling management that they need to go and get 737's? No.

Now if there is a conflict of interest, it is more with ALPA representing multiple airlines (regionals) competing for the flying that the majors don't want.

80ktsClamp 03-08-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 775618)
This is wrong.

Mainline and regional pilots are not competing against each other. The flying that the regionals do is the flying that mainline has decided they didn't want to do or weren't willing to fight harder to keep.

Now if there is a conflict of interest, it is more with ALPA representing multiple airlines (regionals) competing for the flying that the majors don't want.


Really? Come on, now....

Also known as got screwed out of in bankruptcy under 1113c.

Boomer 03-08-2010 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 775618)
Now if there is a conflict of interest, it is more with ALPA representing multiple airlines (regionals) competing for the flying that the majors don't want.

That's OK, because the ALPA regionals aren't getting the bulk of the flying. Skywest and Republic are. So no conflict of interest... :mad:


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