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Old 06-15-2010 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SteelHorseFlyer
From the AAI message board blast email / message to airtran pilots:
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]And so it begins. Looks as if AirTran management plans to steal some customer loyalty and make some money in the process.[/FON

I hope this is a wakeup call for Spirit management. Act fast, or other airlines will.
Originally Posted by SteelHorseFlyer
From my understanding, it's a way for the Spirit MEC to put pressure on management.

By allowing other airlines to pick up the routes, Spirit risks losing MORE business the more they delay giving the pilots a contract and getting back to work.

Bringin' the heat. Nice job Spirit MEC.
So I take it in the first post that you didn't mean "steal" in a bad sense then?

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Old 06-15-2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
If striking isn't the way, then what do you recommend to the pilots at Spirit who have been fighting for a contract for over 4 years?
Maybe he would suggest you just say "Please sir, I want some more"

YouTube - oliver twist - oliver asks for more
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Old 06-15-2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
So I take it in the first post that you didn't mean "steal" in a bad sense then?

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"Bad" is a relative term... Of course it's bad from Spirit management's POV to have passengers stolen by AirTran... That's why it helps the pilots - management needs bad things to happen to be motivated to offer the pilots a contract that is worthy of them.
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Old 06-15-2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivinTheDash
"Bad" is a relative term... Of course it's bad from Spirit management's POV to have passengers stolen by AirTran... That's why it helps the pilots - management needs bad things to happen to be motivated to offer the pilots a contract that is worthy of them.
I initially took the quote as the poster was angry at AirTran for 'stealing' the flying. Later it appeared that the same poster was saying that it was a good thing because it puts that pressure on Spirit's management team for loss of revenue and market share.
I just wanted to make sure that I understood the initial *intent* behind the first post. If I hear someone talking about stealing from someone else - it is usually thought of in a negative light (unless you got a 'steal' on that new car )
I'm just learning this union speak too, but from what I have read (and believe I understand) this would NOT be struck work - obviously since it has the blessing of the Spirit MEC.

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Old 06-15-2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Or a wake up call to Spirit pilots that their customers are going out the door, along with their revenue, and if it keeps up, management may not have much of a raise to give.

I'm all for better pay and benefits, but striking is just not the way to do it. Look what happened the last time we had a union strike in aviation. Or even the last time we had a pilots strike... look what it got them.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you

Don't shoot yourself in the foot thinking you'll be better off after
So iahflyr,

Are you a management sympathiser or just a SCAB wannabe? Seriously dude, where's your head at? Are you a Major pilot or a Regional jock? Creds mean a lot.

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Old 06-15-2010 | 08:51 PM
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For the love of Orville and Wilbur, please don't feed the trolls.
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Old 06-15-2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanb5005
When a competing airline takes over a struck airline's routes, that isn't scabbing - its capitalism. The revenue generated goes entirely to Airtran at Spirit's expense. Airtran has every right to start flying those routes and would be foolish not to. As someone said earlier, it also puts pressure on Spirit's management to end the strike and give their pilots the fair contract they deserve.
EXACTLY! Well stated
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Old 06-16-2010 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanb5005
When a competing airline takes over a struck airline's routes, that isn't scabbing - its capitalism. The revenue generated goes entirely to Airtran at Spirit's expense. Airtran has every right to start flying those routes and would be foolish not to. As someone said earlier, it also puts pressure on Spirit's management to end the strike and give their pilots the fair contract they deserve.
Agreed, good post.
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