BigGuns

I spoke with BB 2 weeks ago. He said there are just over 10,000 apps on file. Not that that means there are 10,000 apps that meet their criteria, but there are 10,000+ apps.

GunshipGuy

Good attitude, and I would think with those creds you'd have gotten an invite by now, but who really knows what exact criteria they're using. Hope you have a LOR or two. If not, try hitting up some guys you know who've left and are with the company. I'm probably sounding like master of the obvious with that one, but you never know. Best of luck to you, sir.

acl65pilot

My guess is that is probably apps that they are interested in. A few guys were told about a month ago they had over 7K apps.

acl65pilot

All of the training fail issues are addressed in the LOA's. I suggest you go read them. Also, I know that we have talked about the flows coming off of probation, but I cannot find any language in any of the three LOA's that address the flows that states this. Flow downs are off probation is they have over 12 months with DAL or flow to a Capt position, but it does not address the flow up. That said, they will be able to deal with whomever they want.

CPS flows 20 per month to a max of 25% of their list and Mesaba flows 9 per month.
The hold backs get a seniority number on the date they were to be in class, and start collecting longevity. All of this is addressed in those pesky little LOA's. They are a long read though.

As for the MEC issue. It is done, and decided, fighting over yesterday's spilled milk serves no one. CPS has their own MEC. An opportunity lost? Probably.
If the 195 was a decent platform you may see a push for the CPS list merged, but since it is old technology, it probably will not be. DCI is going to change and we will all have to watch as that story develops.

Congrats to the FIVE of EIGHT pilots that made it past day one today! Hope tomorrow goes well.

sailingfun

They have over 10,000 applications on file. For what its worth the hiring profile is going to be a bit different this round then last time. They were less then thrilled with some of the new hires and this is not just about flying. Personal conduct became an issue to often.

acl65pilot

Sailing, I am sure that is true!

Guess I screwed it up for everyone!

sailingfun

Its funny how a small minority can screw it up for everyone. Just look at the situation in Atlanta with the cheese graters. Probably not a chance in a million now of getting programs like that expanded. The rules were not that hard yet people would not stick with them.

acl65pilot

I know, we had pilots that think they did not need to walk arounds, pilots that do not commute in for SC, pilots that abuse sick time, pilots that cop attitudes etc.
The rules are not that intrusive and really require no more of an inconvenience. They generally like pilots that do the right thing because it is the right thing, not out of fear. As with everything there are those that surprise even those of us that recommended them.

Do people not know that there are TSA agents at every exit trying to bust us because some of us could not follow the rules? Heck I was a civvie this weekend and had my badge on. I came up the elevator and got accosted. I am darn glad that I did not lose my ticket this time. Happened a few years ago, and my son had pulled the ticket out of my bag. That was ugly, but when I told them what line I went though at the main security checkpoint, that called and confirmed it with the video tape. Saved my bacon.

Just do the right thing even if it is a pita. If not for yourself for the next guy.

flyguy81

If you're offering, I accept...j/k...maybe. Working on the internal LOR's. Have one from a college buddy who lost his medical and is now a FA. Trying to get 1 or more from current pilots, so we'll see. Would be nice to be on a plane you can stand up in....the dream of any 6'3" pilot.

Mesabah

Pilots that flow up from mesaba are required to serve the delta probationary period. So yes, management can fire the undesirables the first day of class for no reason.