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Old 06-26-2010 | 04:35 PM
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I'm sure this has been covered but I searched a bunch of posts and couldn't find answers to my questions. I thought there was a GS thread but I couldn't find that either. Any thoughs would be great.

1. Does a RES guy ever get double pay for being awarded a GS?
2. If you get the robo-call from scheduling saying that a trip is available at priemium pay....., and you speak to your scheduler and accept the trip, is that a GS even if you haven't put a GS request in DBMS? I think this simply reverts to an inverse assigment but I'm not sure.
3. I am a commuter. If I put in a GS for my days off and subsequently get a call for a GS, can I turn it down (regardless of the report time) if I can't get into position?

My category is throwing out green slips left and right and I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense to jump on board as a commuting reserve pilot.

Thoughts???

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Old 06-26-2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger3484
I'm sure this has been covered but I searched a bunch of posts and couldn't find answers to my questions. I thought there was a GS thread but I couldn't find that either. Any thoughs would be great.

1. Does a RES guy ever get double pay for being awarded a GS?
2. If you get the robo-call from scheduling saying that a trip is available at priemium pay....., and you speak to your scheduler and accept the trip, is that a GS even if you haven't put a GS request in DBMS? I think this simply reverts to an inverse assigment but I'm not sure.
3. I am a commuter. If I put in a GS for my days off and subsequently get a call for a GS, can I turn it down (regardless of the report time) if I can't get into position?

My category is throwing out green slips left and right and I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense to jump on board as a commuting reserve pilot.

Thoughts???

ranger
1. no, just the day back off
2. I believe it is, but be careful when "talking" to a scheduler. You may be on the hook.
3. Put in qualifiers (ie, need 5 hours notice) If you talk to someone, it's yours. Careful
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Old 06-26-2010 | 05:31 PM
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1. Does a RES guy ever get double pay for being awarded a GS?

No, A reserve pilot however gets any off days violated paid back in addition to all flying being on top of the cap.

2. If you get the robo-call from scheduling saying that a trip is available at priemium pay....., and you speak to your scheduler and accept the trip, is that a GS even if you haven't put a GS request in DBMS? I think this simply reverts to an inverse assigment but I'm not sure.

Inverse assignment if its a robo call.

3. I am a commuter. If I put in a GS for my days off and subsequently get a call for a GS, can I turn it down (regardless of the report time) if I can't get into position?

The contract requires you to accept a GS if notified however if you can't get there you can't get there. Never had a scheduler say a word when I said I can't make it.
You can however customize your GS request to cover almost anything you might like including report and release times.

The choice to fly a GS is up to you. No one else can tell you if its worth it. The great thing about a reserve GS is you get the days paid back. You can then use those days to role into another GS. That is how guys get 180 pay in one month.
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Old 06-26-2010 | 08:49 PM
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Heyas,

As I understand the rules, anything within 12 hours to report is considered a proffer, and l you are free to decline it. Outside of 12 hours, you are compelled to fly the trip IF you acknoledge the assignment.

That last part is the trick. If you can screen your calls, you might get the details and figure out if you can accept the trip. I think they give you 10-15 minutes to get back to them before they pull the GS and move on to the next person.

With that said, I live in a city that has almost hourly service to a crew base, on company metal. Even at that level of service, there are still dead zones where I'd have a problem making even a 12 hour call out.

To be blunt, the GS system is not commuter friendly. You can do it, but your going to take a disproportionate hit on the QOL.

The robo-call is ALWAYS for a junior manning event, not a green slip. Rules are different.

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Old 06-26-2010 | 09:34 PM
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Heyas,

As I understand the rules, anything within 12 hours to report is considered a proffer, and l you are free to decline it. Outside of 12 hours, you are compelled to fly the trip IF you acknoledge the assignment.

That last part is the trick. If you can screen your calls, you might get the details and figure out if you can accept the trip. I think they give you 10-15 minutes to get back to them before they pull the GS and move on to the next person.

With that said, I live in a city that has almost hourly service to a crew base, on company metal. Even at that level of service, there are still dead zones where I'd have a problem making even a 12 hour call out.

To be blunt, the GS system is not commuter friendly. You can do it, but your going to take a disproportionate hit on the QOL.

The robo-call is ALWAYS for a junior manning event, not a green slip. Rules are different.

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So really, there's no difference to a reserve guy between an IA and GS. Both are simply straight pay above guarantee, and you get your day back on either. Why would a reserve guy ever submit a GS then?

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Old 06-26-2010 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger3484
So really, there's no difference to a reserve guy between an IA and GS. Both are simply straight pay above guarantee, and you get your day back on either. Why would a reserve guy ever submit a GS then?

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GS go out first and in seniority order. IAs go out in inverse seniority order. If you're really wanting one (for rolling thunder for example) you'd want to put in a GS rather than waiting on the IA.
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Old 06-26-2010 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger3484
So really, there's no difference to a reserve guy between an IA and GS. Both are simply straight pay above guarantee, and you get your day back on either. Why would a reserve guy ever submit a GS then?

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Jay beat me to it.
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Old 06-27-2010 | 01:53 PM
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I was at the airport the other night getting ready to commute in, when the robo caller called. I wasn't going to be there in time, but they gave me the IA and the flight waited for me. I got the extra pay, and 2 days off. I just got called for a GS, I told them I had to commute, and gave them the flight numbers. They know I will be late, but they are ok with that since they have no one else available. I now have 3 payback days to use, 2 this month, and one to carry over. Credit is 37 hours, and pay is 85, not bad for not losing any days off, and hopefully using the PB days to get another GS or 2.
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Old 06-27-2010 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattlecfi
I was at the airport the other night getting ready to commute in, when the robo caller called. I wasn't going to be there in time, but they gave me the IA and the flight waited for me. I got the extra pay, and 2 days off. I just got called for a GS, I told them I had to commute, and gave them the flight numbers. They know I will be late, but they are ok with that since they have no one else available. I now have 3 payback days to use, 2 this month, and one to carry over. Credit is 37 hours, and pay is 85, not bad for not losing any days off, and hopefully using the PB days to get another GS or 2.
The base realignment situation is working for quite a few people.
A lot of former NWA pilots are banking some major coinage right now.
Green slips definitely work if you're in position to get 'em.
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Old 06-27-2010 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattlecfi
I was at the airport the other night getting ready to commute in, when the robo caller called. I wasn't going to be there in time, but they gave me the IA and the flight waited for me. I got the extra pay, and 2 days off. I just got called for a GS, I told them I had to commute, and gave them the flight numbers. They know I will be late, but they are ok with that since they have no one else available. I now have 3 payback days to use, 2 this month, and one to carry over. Credit is 37 hours, and pay is 85, not bad for not losing any days off, and hopefully using the PB days to get another GS or 2.
In my best Borat accent, very nice! Get another one or two and you'll have 130 hours of pay and a few more PB days. When you can get the GS gravy train rolling, it can work very good.
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