I find that VERY hard to believe. There is a play going on well beyond flow ups and downs, we just don't see what it is.

 

I tend to agree with our esteemed Captain. These guys read contracts for a living. I don't see them fornicating with the dog this badly.

 

I am sure they know what they are up to, and I am sure they have learned from the Mesa stuff.

Remember that Finance makes decisions on what to sell, not Flying Operations.

Wait and see what happens in the coming weeks. Read the LOA's, and the PWA. Understand what is really going on, then when info starts to come out, you can make educated statements.
-Also note that when you read them that many documents reference the others ones. To say the least it is a interesting situation. Also, note that to date DAL has not stated anything publicly about killing any part of the flow. That may come, but to date I see no public reference except the CPS CEO.

(Not directed at you Satch, just quoting your post)

 

Agreed. There was a reason they did not "proactively engage" ALPA on this - they were busy getting their legal ducks in order without giving ALPA a chance to develop a counter. They are on the defense now.

I can't wait for more engagement

 

Just so I understand this -

Moak signs LOAs that many Delta pilots disagree with and the blame is on... Moak.

Lawson writes a letter that many Comair pilots disagree with and the blame is on... all Comair pilots.

I'm scratching my head.

 

UGBSM, you'll notice JungleBus lists EMB-175 CA as his position. As none of these aircraft found their way to Comair, I'd say JungleBus is not suffering from Comair's strike-driven woes.

 

Actually the Q and A that was first sent out and the one that is up on the Compass Webpage has changed...

It states that they hope to keep the flow up in place for atleast 60 days while the parties discuss the continuation of the flow and if neccesary to negotiate new agreements

guess someone got ahead of themselves...

 

Wow. I'm glad someone finally said it.

I have tried more times than I care to count to explain to people that this was not a "Comair Pilot Group" decision, but a "JC Lawson" decision. I've heard the argument that the Comair Pilots should have "done something" to stop it if they really didn't approve of it. Somehow my retort of, "Just like we can stop LM from doing something we don't approve of? " doesn't seem to register.

I understand the frustration and apparent feeling of betrayal that a wholly-owned subsidiary won't accept the parent company's pilots when they are furloughing. And I'm truly sorry all of those pilots hit the street without a job - I've been there, and it sucks. But this was truly a case of 2 Regional MEC Chairmen attempting to prove whose **** was bigger, and Lawson lost that egocentric game, at his Pilot Group's expense. I hate that the Comair Pilot Group is still paying the price after all these years, due to misplaced blame.

Sorry for the thread hijack - I'm just so relieved to hear that someone else "gets it," and I couldn't help but chime in.

 

It's because the comair pilots didn't jump and scream and get lawson to change the direction.

Moak has generally done pretty well, but when he makes a stupid decision we jump and scream, and change has happened.

 

Not to you specifically - Other than the Compass Q&A statement, and a Code-a-phone saying they were sold do we have any other facts to support all the hand wringing and teeth-gnashing over what the future of the flows are?

I love a good conspiracy theory, but isn't all of this a little premature until we hear what, *if any* changes are being proposed?